Yup I think your right what a ball ache! jesus I don't mind a bit of hard work but sheeze! brain strain! to make things worse I dont think there are RPM avalible for 64BIT FC 3! so I tried to compile from source wich seems to be near on impossible :( toooo much time wasted on that one lol. -- Regards, Phil -- This message was scanned for spam and viruses by BitDefender For more information please visit http://www.bcs.uk.net