Steve wrote: >#diff lshal-no-media.txt lshal-with-media.txt I did as you suggested (except for changing the output redirection from "<" to ">") and got the following output from the diff command : [root@eunix ~]# diff lshal-with-media.txt lshal-no-media.txt 2c2 < Dumping 34 device(s) from the Global Device List: --- > Dumping 33 device(s) from the Global Device List: 4,35d3 < udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_64-0' < info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_64-0' (string) < volume.disc.is_rewritable = false (bool) < volume.disc.is_appendable = false (bool) < volume.disc.is_blank = true (bool) < volume.disc.has_data = false (bool) < volume.disc.has_audio = false (bool) < volume.disc.type = 'cd_r' (string) < volume.size = 2048 (0x800) (uint64) < volume.block_size = 2048 (0x800) (int) < volume.num_blocks = 4 (0x4) (int) < volume.is_disc = true (bool) < volume.is_mounted = false (bool) < volume.mount_point = '' (string) < volume.label = '' (string) < volume.uuid = '' (string) < volume.fsversion = '' (string) < volume.fsusage = '' (string) < volume.fstype = '' (string) < info.product = 'Volume' (string) < info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_64' (string) < info.category = 'volume' (string) < info.capabilities = 'block volume' (string) < info.bus = 'block' (string) < block.no_partitions = true (bool) < block.have_scanned = false (bool) < block.is_volume = true (bool) < block.device = '/dev/hdb' (string) < block.major = 3 (0x3) (int) < block.minor = 64 (0x40) (int) < block.storage_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_64' (string) < 479d446 < volume.is_partition = false (bool) 517c484 < block.have_scanned = true (bool) --- > block.have_scanned = false (bool) 894c861 < Dumped 34 device(s) from the Global Device List: --- > Dumped 33 device(s) from the Global Device List: [root@eunix ~]# This would seem to indicate that the problem is not with hal, if I understand this correctly. I have tried burning as both normal user and root with no difference, which would seem to indicate that it is not a permissions error. At first I was thinking that it was another SELinux-udev issue but this also seems not to be the case. I'm really doing a lot of head scratching here. I do know that it's not hardware since I can burn by booting to FC2. Thanks for the response and any further input sincerely appreciated. Jim -- This is an email sent via the webforum on http://fcp.homelinux.org