Ed Wilts wrote: > A coworker turned on greylisting on his home system last night and > discovered that a message from the mrtg mailing list was initially > blocked but not retried. In other words, a legitimate message that > should have been delivered went to the bit bucket. You can make a > perfectly valid case that the server that tried to deliver it is broken, > but you can also make a perfectly valid case that you're now preventing > legitimate e-mail from being delivered. Um. With a set-up like that, mail loss is inevitable anyway. Sometimes (not always) it's better to have a situation where you know there's a problem and can take steps to fix it properly (on the sending server, in this case), rather than a situation that apparently works properly but doesn't. Because evidently, no-one's spotted that some mail is getting lost and kicked up enough of a fuss. > In a large > corporate environment, it's too late to add a server to a whitelist - > you may have already lost an order, frustrated a customer, or at least > added maintenance work for your e-mail admins. In this case, unfortunately, getting everyone who's going to e-mail you to install and configure their mail servers properly is impossible. (Insert cynical statement about certain so-called "mail servers" here...) > There is no single free one-step method for stopping all spam and > nothing but the spam. Ain't that the truth. When greylisting becomes sufficiently popular, spammers are going to start using software that retries properly. James. -- E-mail address: james | "What kind of music do you get here, ma'am?" @westexe.demon.co.uk | "Why, we get both kinds of music, Country and | Western."