staying with my issue with udev and USB - I don't understand udev - regardless of how much research that I do. On my FC-2 computer... # ls /dev/ttyUSB* /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyUSB10 /dev/ttyUSB12 /dev/ttyUSB14 /dev/ttyUSB2 /dev/ttyUSB4 /dev/ttyUSB6 /dev/ttyUSB8 /dev/ttyUSB1 /dev/ttyUSB11 /dev/ttyUSB13 /dev/ttyUSB15 /dev/ttyUSB3 /dev/ttyUSB5 /dev/ttyUSB7 /dev/ttyUSB9 On my FC-3 computer # ls /dev/ttyUSB* ls: /dev/ttyUSB*: No such file or directory # ls /dev/pilot ls: /dev/pilot: No such file or directory ---then I push the sync button--- # ls /dev/ttyUSB* ls: /dev/ttyUSB*: No such file or directory # ls /dev/pilot /dev/pilot ---so /dev/pilot shows up but not /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1 though they are mentioned in /var/log/messages... # tail /var/log/messages Dec 9 11:01:01 lin-workstation crond(pam_unix)[6141]: session closed for user root Dec 9 11:43:26 lin-workstation kernel: ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: wakeup Dec 9 11:43:26 lin-workstation kernel: usb 3-3: new full speed USB device using address 12 Dec 9 11:43:26 lin-workstation kernel: visor 3-3:1.0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter detected Dec 9 11:43:26 lin-workstation kernel: usb 3-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Dec 9 11:43:26 lin-workstation kernel: usb 3-3: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1 Dec 9 11:44:25 lin-workstation kernel: usb 3-3: USB disconnect, address 12 Dec 9 11:44:25 lin-workstation kernel: visor ttyUSB0: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0 Dec 9 11:44:25 lin-workstation kernel: visor ttyUSB1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1 Dec 9 11:44:25 lin-workstation kernel: visor 3-3:1.0: device disconnected ***and*** # cat /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}="0000:00:02.1", NAME="pilot" KERNEL="ttyUSB1",SYMLINK="pilot" I'm frustrated that I can't figure this out. 1 - do I have to mknod /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 ? 2 - why does dlpsh and pilot-xfer -p /dev/pilot -L work but gpilotd pointed to /dev/pilot never connect? 3 - is this a bugzilla issue or user that doesn't get it? Thanks Craig