Hi > and there doesn't seem to be any kind of (working) menu editing tool > either. Strikes me as an enormous glaring hole in Gnome. Anybody know > if the Gnome folks plan to ever fix it? > there is. it is too buggy that redhat has disabled it in gnome for the past two releases. gnome 2.10 has a new implementation which is expected to work well -- Regards, Rahul Sundaram