Okay, here goes. > There is some extra work for FC3 since it uses udev. See > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/udev/ for the details. I'm not sure > what editing the modprobe.conf did. Basically, with the nvidia module > loaded do: > cp -a /dev/nvidia* /etc/udev/devices > chown root.root /etc/udev/devices/nvidia* okay, added this... no real change from the new behavior. > I assume you changed your xorg.conf file to have Driver "nvidia" > instead of "nv". yup, did that from the start. > Okay, so it did work before, then. I wouldn't be concerned about one > lock up. Computers are complicated things, and every once in a while, > something strange can happen. It definitely seems something in Fedora > is causing the problems then. You don't happen to have your old > config files, do you? nope. all I kept were the partitions that held my data... everything in / and /usr were expendable... a habit from needing seeing clean installs have fewer glitches than upgrades over the year, under no fewer than 6 different Unix flavors :) > Yes, do send your xorg.conf. From the above message, something isn't > quite right there. If you see anything that looks helpful in the log > files, send those lines, but normally the logs are huge and contain > only little bits useful information. A lot of redundant errors. I > can't think of anything else right now. here's the xorg.conf: # XFree86 4 configuration created by pyxf86config Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "Default Layout" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally # no need to change the default. # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together) # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of # the X server to render fonts. RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" FontPath "unix/:7100" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" Load "extmod" Load "fbdevhw" Load "glx" Load "record" Load "freetype" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1)) # Option "Xleds" "1 2 3" # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable. # Option "XkbDisable" # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the # lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S. # keyboard, you will probably want to use: # Option "XkbModel" "pc102" # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use: # Option "XkbModel" "microsoft" # # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting. # For example, a german layout can be obtained with: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # or: # Option "XkbLayout" "de" # Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" # # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and # control keys, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps" # Or if you just want both to be control, use: # Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" # Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" Option "XkbModel" "pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "us" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Monitor Vendor" ModelName "ViewSonic VX900-2" DisplaySize 380 300 HorizSync 30.0 - 83.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 Option "dpms" EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Videocard0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "Videocard vendor" BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 MX (generic)" Option "NoLogo" "yes" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Videocard0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" "1280x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection #Section "DRI" # Group 0 # Mode 0666 #EndSection ----------------- and here's the Xorg.0.log from running "startx" from a console with the above config (kinda long): X Window System Version 6.8.1 Release Date: 17 September 2004 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 6.8.1 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.9-1.751_ELsmp i686 [ELF] Current Operating System: Linux ghost 2.6.9-1.681_FC3 #1 Thu Nov 18 15:10:10 EST 2004 i686 Build Date: 01 December 2004 Build Host: tweety.build.redhat.com Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.X.Org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present OS Kernel: Linux version 2.6.9-1.681_FC3 (bhcompile@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat 3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Thu Nov 18 15:10:10 EST 2004 P Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Dec 5 16:43:24 2004 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Videocard0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.2 X.Org Video Driver: 0.7 X.Org XInput driver : 0.4 X.Org Server Extension : 0.2 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.4 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (--) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x80010044, mode1Res1 = 0x80000000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) [snip] (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension SHAPE (II) Loading extension MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD (II) Loading extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Loading extension SYNC (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XC-MISC (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-Misc (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension TOG-CUP (II) Loading extension Extended-Visual-Information (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/linux/libfbdevhw.a (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 0.0.2 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.6629 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.2 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "freetype" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so (II) Module freetype: vendor="X.Org Foundation & the After X-TT Project" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 2.1.0 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: "type1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.2 Module class: X.Org Font Renderer ABI class: X.Org Font Renderer, version 0.4 (II) Loading font Type1 (II) Loading font CID (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.6629 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/kbd_drv.o (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 0.4 (II) NVIDIA X Driver 1.0-6629 Wed Nov 3 13:14:07 PST 2004 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all NVIDIA GPUs (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) Chipset NVIDIA GPU found [snip] (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "NoLogo" "yes" (--) NVIDIA(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE8000000 (--) NVIDIA(0): MMIO registers at 0xFD000000 (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU detected as: GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 04.18.20.22.00 (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected AGP rate: 4X (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoRAM: 131072 kBytes (II) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s): CRT-0 (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-0: maximum pixel clock at 8 bpp: 350 MHz (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-0: maximum pixel clock at 16 bpp: 350 MHz (--) NVIDIA(0): Display device CRT-0: maximum pixel clock at 32 bpp: 350 MHz (II) Loading sub module "ddc" (II) LoadModule: "ddc" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) NVIDIA(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 30.00-83.00 kHz (II) NVIDIA(0): Monitor0: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-75.00 Hz (II) NVIDIA(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 350.00 MHz (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "360x200" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "320x240" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "400x300" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "512x384" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1280x960" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x480" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 162MHz exceeds DDC maximum 140MHz (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor0) mode clock 175.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 140MHz (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (hsync out of range) (WW) (1792x1344,Monitor0) mode clock 204.8MHz exceeds DDC maximum 140MHz (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "896x672" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1856x1392" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "928x696" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1152x864" (vrefresh out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "576x432" (vrefresh out of range) (WW) (1400x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 151MHz exceeds DDC maximum 140MHz (WW) (1400x1050,Monitor0) mode clock 155.8MHz exceeds DDC maximum 140MHz (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1200" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x600" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1920x1440" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "960x720" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "2048x1536" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1792x1344" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (width too large for virtual size) (II) NVIDIA(0): Not using default mode "1400x1050" (width too large for virtual size) (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "896x672" (height 1344 is larger than (WW) NVIDIA(0): EDID-specified maximum 1024) (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "800x600" (height 1200 is larger than (WW) NVIDIA(0): EDID-specified maximum 1024) (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "800x600" (height 1200 is larger than (WW) NVIDIA(0): EDID-specified maximum 1024) (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "700x525" (height 1050 is larger than (WW) NVIDIA(0): EDID-specified maximum 1024) (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "700x525" (height 1050 is larger than (WW) NVIDIA(0): EDID-specified maximum 1024) (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "700x525" (height 1050 is larger than (WW) NVIDIA(0): EDID-specified maximum 1024) (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "1152x768": (WW) NVIDIA(0): horizontal sync start (1178) not a multiple of 8 (WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode "576x384": (WW) NVIDIA(0): horizontal sync start (589) not a multiple of 8 (**) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes for display device CRT-0: (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x960": 108.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1280x1024": 108.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1024x768": 75.0 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 50.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x512": 67.5 MHz, 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x512": 54.0 MHz, 64.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "640x480": 54.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "576x432": 54.0 MHz, 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 39.4 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 37.5 MHz, 56.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "512x384": 32.5 MHz, 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "416x312": 28.6 MHz, 49.7 kHz, 74.7 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 24.8 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.1 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 25.0 MHz, 48.1 kHz, 72.2 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 20.0 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "400x300": 18.0 MHz, 35.2 kHz, 56.3 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 15.8 MHz, 37.9 kHz, 72.8 Hz (D) (**) NVIDIA(0): Default mode "320x240": 12.6 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.1 Hz (D) (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1280 x 1024 (**) NVIDIA(0): Display dimensions: (380, 300) mm (**) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (85, 86) (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.2 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 6.8.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7 (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. [snip] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1280x1024" (II) Loading extension NV-GLX (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled (**) Option "dpms" (**) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL (==) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension LBX (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP (II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE (II) Initializing extension GLX (**) Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2" (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/input/mice" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "IMPS/2" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" (**) Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes" (**) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 5 (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Keyboard0: Core Keyboard (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "NVIDIA Event Handler" (type: Other) (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded ----------------- which results in a black screen with a graphical pointer, and a tiny colored line at the top left, a few pixels wide. next is what had happened when it tries to start up GDM after booting up... almost the exact same thing, except without the details about the combination of resolutions it tried, and this error: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** (II) UnloadModule: "nvidia" (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found I'm going to check out Viewsonic's website tomorrow from work and see if the monitor specs are correct... this is truly weird... I love a puzzle as much as the next sysadmin, but gimme the answers to this one already!! :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summer Brooks, WildHorse.com Staff I will choose a Path that's clear brooksj at wildhorse dot com I will choose Free Will