On Sun, 5 Dec 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > On Sunday 05 December 2004 12:39, Timothy Payne wrote: > > And who put Mr. Day in charge? > > I think you're being a little harsh. His advice to get a book on the > subject is sound and precisely what I did: I bought a book with CD > (Slackware, before RHL was visible in the shops). ok, let me try to bring this to a close. please. so we can all go back to arguing about top versus bottom posting. :-P my beef *wasn't* with a newbie asking questions, ok? it was more specifically with someone who: 1) had clearly *just* installed linux for the first time, 2) had, by his own admission, spent all of two hours with it, and 3) joined the fedora list and posted, asking a basic question with no subject field, spelling a directory name incorrectly and apparently trying to do some administration (installing software) while apparently not understanding the notion of the root account and root versus non-root power. this has nothing to do with being a newbie. this has to do with investing at least a *minimal* amount of time to familiarize yourself with a *very* powerful and sophisticated operating system that, if you don't understand at least a few critical concepts, will turn around and bite you in the butt really hard. and all that before asking the FC community to start solving your problems for you. was i being rude? probably. but i was in a bit of a snarky mood, having just upgraded (very carefully, backing up all the critical user data first) a system from FC1 to FC3, only to learn afterwards that the previous admin had, via symlinks, installed the main project's web pages in /usr/tmp, for gawd's sake. grrrrrr ... rday