Angelo Machils wrote: > What personally bugs me the most is the too radical replies to things > like someone making the mistake of posting a testmessage, or putting the > reply text above the original one, or just reply with 'RTFM' or 'look in > internet'. To be fair, I have seen very few "RTFM" or "look in Internet" replies that haven't pointed the questioner to the FM or the Web site in question. Sometimes, they're rather general pointers ("search the list archives, this has been answered recently"). Ideally, and in theory, the questioner gains: * the knowledge that there is an answer out there, so it's worth looking, * where to start looking, * a method of trouble-shooting and problem-solving that will serve them well in the future. (For example, "Try linuxprinting.org" is the right place to start looking for a whole host of printing problems. It can answer questions the original questioner hadn't known they should be asking.) And usually, an "official" web site carries more weight than a random post on a mailing list. Even a pointer to another user's post carries the implication that both the original poster and the current respondent agree with the contents of the post. So a one line pointer to the answer can be one of the most helpful answers imaginable. Now there are two problems with this. And both of them are to do with human culture. One is that people are used to "cushion phrases". "I was sorry to hear you were having trouble with your printer. Did you know you can find out most answers at linuxprinting.org?" takes time to type. [1] So busy respondents often don't take the time to put it in. But it often comes across as being rude. The other one is that cultures based on some human languages tend not to put in "Would you mind trying...", whereas other cultures expect it. So you get cultural confusion. I'm not sure that I've got any quick answers. If you're using an editor that allows macros or abbreviations, the equivalent of a :ab _sorry Hi there.^M^MSorry to hear you're having trouble.^M^MPlease try might be worth investigating. Regulars will spot it as noise, but newcomers might find it more friendly. But I think my sigmonster (the script that chooses my signature) might be trying to tell me something about manuals in general... James. [1] Yes, I know. I'm a quick typist. And I have no links with linuxprinting.org: they're simply a (good and) convenient example... -- E-mail address: james | "Hardware simply does not work like the manual says @westexe.demon.co.uk | and no amount of Zen contemplation will ever make you | at one with a 3c905B ethernet card." | -- Alan Cox