Just to restate the problem -- when I start my linux box I do NOT manually attempt to start sshd. If I attempt to ssh into my linux box, I get a timeout error. If I check the \var\log\secure, I get the error about "address is already in use." I never see an error on-screen. That being said, this is pretty much a plain-vanilla FC3 install and I know there are some updates to be had (I started downloading 'em this morning) so maybe one of those will fix the problem. I have one other problem, which I'll bring up in a separate email. thanks.