Hi, I just made some upgrades yesterday (via yum) and today after boot I realized that eggcups and g-v-m crashes on login. I suspect that this is because HAL is not running. During boot it says HAL [OK] but there is no proccess hal in the system (ps -fe | grep -i hal) and when shutting down it says HAL [FAILED]. When logging in 2 crash window dialogs pop up, one for eggcups and one for g-v-m. eggcups insists many times until it completely dissapears. And maybe because of the lack of HAL, every gnome program that uses the new File Chooser it just blocks when trying to save or load a file and the only solution is to kill the app. Nautilus refuses to start too, so I have no desktop. It won't start even in command line. I switched acpi off in grub and with APM my system did power off when shutting down but not anymore. Many many problems just for a simple update. Any ideas? everything was perfect before the updates. The packages I upgraded yesterday were these: redhat-menus gd* slang* arts* gamin* sound-juicer system-config-users words wireless-tools gdb libxml2* libselinux* policycoreutils Thanx, -William