On Thursday 04 Nov 2004 16:45, linux r wrote: > On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 16:07:10 +0000, Rui Miguel Seabra <rms@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 12:06 -0500, Scot L. Harris wrote: > > > I admit I have not used OS X but have been considering an Apple laptop > > > the next time I get one. I think you are being unfair calling it a toy > > > BSD-based os. > > > > Get a *BSD os and compare first, please :) > > > > > Can't get much more free than Apache and sendmail. :) If you are > > > talking about the OS I think you purchase that along with the hardware. > > > So it is a sunk cost. I don't think Apple sells systems without their > > > operating system. But I could be wrong about that. > > > > Yes I'm talking about the whole. It's just the same problem as when > > buying a "pc" laptop, it almost always comes with Windows and you get to > > pay for it even if you don't want it. > > > > > > > Instead of using expensive equipment (G4 or G5) you might consider > > > > > using some cheap Intel or AMD based box. You can get good boxes > > > > > for 300 to 400 dollars that will be more than sufficient to handle > > > > > a small site with low volume traffic. > > > > > > > > This might be a good option... > > > > > > If you are hung up on using "free" software I think that would be the > > > best option. > > > > No one is "hung up" os using Free Software... > > > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html > > > > ... since that's not a limitation but a choice. And a much better one > > than choosing to be a subject to "owners" of socially harmfull software, > > like proprietary software. > > > > Rui > > > > ps: living in a Free House, where even non geeks like my girlfriend and > > occasional guests use Free Software (namely the latest release of Fedora > > Core) without any problem. > > > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > Hey guys, > > Thanks for all the detailed info. It's really great. This happens to > be a school, and for all I know, I will get the hardware ONLY and thus > not OS X or whatever, but I am not sure. Not a big deal. I agree, > Mac OS is mighty cool, with the BSD kernel and all of that. > > The main thing is to get it up and running fast/stable/secure, so (in > this project) I am not really wanting to learn a new distro, package > manager, etc etc. I am a Red Hat guy mainly, and I don't have 20 > years of UNIX and C programming experience (unfortunately for me). > Although generally I love learning new things of course, which is why > I am on this list ... > > I think I am gonna do my damndest to lobby for i386 and save myself > architectural headaches. If there is no i386 hardware available, I > will get it running on the ppc based on some of the links and advice > posted here. I may give Yellow Dog a try, if it is reasonably easy to > install it should do the trick for us. Have you considered YellowDox Linux - Redhat-style distro on PPC: http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/