Re: About "How do I make XMMS play MP3s?" from a new comer

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On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 14:17 -0400, C. Linus Hicks wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-10-29 at 13:31, Markku Kolkka wrote:
> > C. Linus Hicks kirjoitti viestissÃÃn (lÃhetysaika perjantai, 29. 
> > lokakuuta 2004 18:47):
> > > I just noticed on the http://rpm.livna.org page this message:
> > >
> > > "The merger between Fedora.us and Red Hat necessitated the
> > > removal of certain problematic packages (including but not
> > > limited to mplayer, xine, videolan-client and xmms-mp3) due to
> > > licensing issues or US software patent."
> > 
> > Did you notice the next paragraph of text on the same site? The 
> > one that starts: "The open community of volunteers gathered in 
> > rpm.livna.org will continue to maintain those packages..."
> 
> Yeah, so I'm curious how they plan to resolve the obvious conflict
> between those two statements. The first statement says "necessitated the
> removal..." and if that's true, how do you then make available things
> that have been removed from their site? Are they planning on starting a
> new repository?
> 
> However, if you look in their repository, xmms-mp3 is still there, so
> the first statement seems to be a lie.
> 

Quoted in full to keep context.

Calling people liars is not going to make you any friends, especially
when you're operating from ignorance. Notice the text is very clear:

"The merger between Fedora.us and Red Hat" necessitated the removal of
some packages from Fedora.us. Those packages were removed from
Fedora.us. The fact that you saw this news item on a Livna.org page
means nothing... Fedora.us had to remove some packages, and they did.

Fedora.us has no relationship to Livna, which is in another country and
not subject to the same laws. So Livna has no such need to remove those
packages, and didn't. You'll find xmms-mp3 on Livna, where it's legal,
and not on Fedora.us, where it's not.

There are no lies... there is simply your inability to read and keep
your facts straight.

-- 
Rodolfo J. Paiz <rpaiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

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