Sorry if the output near the bottm looks messed up... DARN gmail for inserting wired line breaks. The fedora list didn't get this last time... SORRY. Ok I really think I messed some stuff up when I updated the system using yum and those other repositries. Now when I try to do an update (in Gnome by the way using the rhn notification icon in the system try) I get a package conflict error with libXML here is the exact error: Test install failed because of package conflicts: file /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 from install of libxml2-2.6.15-2 conflicts with the file from package libxml2_2.6.10-2_11.rhfc2.at now when I double click the alert icon it tells me what versions I have and are available this is what comes up (including the perl stuff just to hopefully help out.): Package Installed Available libxml2 -2.6.10-2_11rhfc2.at -2.6.15-2:,-2.6.15-2 libxml2-python -2.6.10-2_11rhfc2.at -2.6.15-2:,-2.6.15-2 perl-XML-LibXML -1.53-1 -1.56-10:,-1.56-10 perl-XML-LibXML-Common -0.12-1 -0.13-5:,-0.13-5 perl-XML-NameSpaceSupport -1.08-1 -1.08-5:,-1.08-5 perl-XML-SAX -0.12-1 -0.96-2:,-0.96-2 Doing the "yum clear all" gave me a gaim update and a redhat-artwork update that went flawlessly. Thanx again.