On Wed, 27 Oct 2004, Mike WItt wrote: > I've been experimenting with yum and up2date. They both appear to > have their merits. I've got a couple of additional questions. > > (1) Is it "safe" to use both yum and up2date? yes > It *appears* that > one recognizes changes that were made by the other. Is this > always the case? Because both use 'rpmdb' to identify the current state of the sytem. (the current state could have been arived at by use of rpm/yum/up2date/apt/other-means previously) This may be the solution to my problem running system-config-packages. I may have no rpm database.... > Or can you get in trouble if you don't stick > to one or the other? I don't think so. I routinely use both. However, you have to make sure that you use yum with the upgrade and not update option. > > (2) What is the best way to go about finding the "right" repositories > to use? Both in terms of getting the "correct" updates, and also > in terms of not generating undue traffic? The way I do this (with yum) is: - /etc/yum.conf is the main config - which includes repositories which I ALWAYS want to use. (fc1-release,fc1-updates,fc1-extras) Now I can do 'yum update' all the time. - I have separate configs for additional repositories - which I tend to use occasionally - and look for only specific packages. (for eg: I don't want all updates from 'dag' (like rsync - which might overwrite fedora-release versions - just a couple of extra pacakges like pine). So I have /etc/yum.conf.dag with (fc1-release,fc1-updates,fc1-extras,fc1-dag) Now I can do 'yum -c /etc/yum.conf.dag update pine' yum-2.1 - which comes with FC3 (beta) has a better way to manage this (so I don't have to repeat fc1-release in both /etc/yum.conf & /etc/yum.conf.dag Yum with FC2 is limited to one repository. However, up2date selects a random location. I'm located in the US and have downloaded from both European and Asian repositories (and some of them are faster/better than those located in the US.) Here is what I do: I use the Red Had Alert Notification tool to find out if there are any new packages available. The I use yum to download and upgrade them. If I use up2date, I have it download only the new package. I then use rpm -Uvh to upgrade the dowloaded package. If the packge 'breaks' (I have a very slow connection) then I use either wget or gftp (these allow recovery of a broken connection) to get the package from repository local to me. So, I use three of the four (that I know of) methods to update/upgrade existing packages. Right now, I cannot use system-config-packages and (as stated above) I think that I know why it cannot find the installation tree. James McKenzie James McKenzie A Proud User of Linux!
