On Sunday 17 October 2004 20:22, Timothy Murphy wrote: >On Monday 18 October 2004 00:42, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: >> On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 13:52 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> > I hope for one thing they will undo the mess they caused in FC2 >> > which made X unusable on Sony C1 Picturebooks. >> >> The licensing change in XFree86 which triggered the switch to Xorg >> is not unique to FC2, and not an internally-driven change. Hope >> your problem is solved with the newer versions, but I disagree >> with your dropping the blame for the "mess they caused" on the >> Fedora team. They are not culpable for your pain. > >I know I was being unfair. >But Fedora did decide to go over to Xorg, >unlike most of the other distributions, You are being blinded by the lights. The huge majority of the distros have converted to the xorg release, doing so with each newly generated release. >so I suppose they must share the blame for any problems. That blame is miss-placed. Trouble had been brewing at XFree for quite a while, and the license change was the straw that effectively broke the camels back. The new XFree license is, AIUI, incompatible with the GPL. And anything thats not compatible with the GPL or the LGPL, isn't welcome in any distro unless they have sufficient legal staff to defend themselves from any potential copyright problems. That sort of thing is an exposure no one needs. Only M$ can afford to take that chance since they have rather large reserves. >Basically, I was just hoping that if I screamed loudly enough >someone on the Fedora team might hear me >and decide to make sure this patch was applied in FC3. The patch maybe, thats not my expertise. I just had a x upgrade (It was actually a major downgrade in fact, downgrading me from 6.8.1 to some new bugfixed version of 6.7.0., thank God for amanda.) script bug eat my X install, and the bug is over 2 years old, so your opinion of bugzilla is relatively well founded. OTOH, my personal opinion of bugzilla is not even printable on the net, let alone on paper. I've tried to file bugs, and its simply not equipt to let you describe what the problem is, so I gave up on it a year ago. I report them here, where the answers can be fairly interactive and a heck of a lot more educational for me. >There does seem to be something wrong with the bug-tracking system >if a patch like this, posted on the bugzilla site, >can be overlooked for 5 or 6 months. > > >-- >Timothy Murphy >e-mail (<80k only): tim /at/ birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie >tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 >s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.27% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.