On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 09:37, Gu, John A. (US SSA) wrote: > Alex, > > 1. I never used yum/apt/etc to get xemacs and I don't know how to. > 2. The URL is: http://www.xemacs.org. And I take the stable version > 21.4.15. > > Thanks, > > John Perhaps I can help you with No. 1 above. Point your browser to http://apt.freshrpms.net. Download the rpm for whichever version of Fedora you're using--they have separate packages for FC1 and 2. As root, execute "chmod 777 " followed by the name of the package. Still as root, execute "rpm -i " followed by the name of the package. Execute "apt-get update" to get the list of packages from the repository. (This is called "the package meta-data." Then execute "apt-get install synaptic". That will at least get you started. But if you really want every repository you need, hit this link: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2198 (And if you don't care to install things with a GUI interface, that link contains a good primer on the apt commands.) If I were installing a new system today, I would take these steps to get apt and synaptic on that system before I did anything else. You *will* have to edit some source files on your system. Find these in /etc/apt. (You need root privileges to edit these.) (Which brings up another pet peeve of mine: I *never* rely on mirror or repo lists that are on an Internet site. I finally fixed up2date by downloading my own copies of the mirror lists and deleting the primary site ("download.redhat.com" and so forth) and at least two mirrors that I know are broken (the "rpmfind" host, and the host "eas.muohio.edu"). I set my mirror-of-choice to host "dulug.duke.edu" and left the other mirrors in place. I haven't had a lick of trouble with up2date since.) Above all, Linux is about taking direct control of your system. That's why everything having to do with system configuration is in a text file that you can edit with very simple editors. (And also why system security is more important than ever.) Temlakos PS: Do not--I repeat, do not--get into the habit of "logging in as root" whenever you have to make an administrative change. People have a bad habit of "working as root" all the time. Instead, execute the command "su" from a terminal window, navigate to the directory containing the files you wish to edit, and then edit them with either "gedit" or, if you feel adventurous, "vi" or "emacs." I tend to spend as little time as possible doing things with the root identity. PPS: Does anyone know how to restrict the "su" command to a non-universal user group, like "wheel," the way Gentoo does? It ought to be a simple change, but I'm not as familiar as I should be with how to restrict certain commands to certain groups.