OK, I've been working a lot a sleeping a little; I think my head is now clear enough to respond to this: On Sat, 2004-10-02 at 06:49, Ted Kaczmarek wrote: > On Fri, 2004-10-01 at 12:25 -0400, Deron Meranda wrote: > > Is this the correct behavior, or a bug? (seeing this in both FC2 > > as well as EL3) > > > > I wrote an application which registers itself in a couple IPv6 > > multicast groups on an ethernet interface. A "netstat -A inet6 -g" > > then shows the group membership, such as > > > > IPv6/IPv4 Group Memberships > > Interface RefCnt Group > > --------------- ------ --------------------- > > lo 1 ff02::1 > > eth0 1 ff02::eb42:8740 > > eth0 1 ff02::f6b6:d980 > > eth0 1 ff02::1:ff13:7276 > > eth0 1 ff02::1 > > > > If I then leave the application running, but do > > an "ifdown eth0" then "ifup eth0", I get this, > > > > IPv6/IPv4 Group Memberships > > Interface RefCnt Group > > --------------- ------ --------------------- > > lo 1 ff02::1 > > eth0 1 ff02::1:ff13:7276 > > eth0 1 ff02::1 > > > > Are group memberships supposed to be preserved across > > up/down cycling? If not, then what's the proper way for an > > application to detect that this has occurred so it can re-register? > > Note that the app can still successfully SEND packets to the > > group, but obviously, it no longer receives any packets. > > > up/down cycling of what? > Most switches will and should flush all tables on a port state change. > I am assuming you are in a switch that is doing igmp snooping as well. > What you probably need is for your app to detect link loss and send a > new join when the link comes back. I have seen what I consider many > broken applications that have this same issue. You may want to read up > on how igmp and Pim work, and how the network equipment you are using > implements it. Some vendors allow for you to manually join a group, this > will force that port to always get the multicast data for that group. > > Also if come up with a good negative ack model , which is really the > proper approach, it should recover in a relatively fast time on any > up/down cycling assuming the network gear is set up right and working > properly. CAUGHT YA! You're using Multicast on Linux. After all these years, I've finally found the 'one guy' actually using what, to me, is the coolest feature of Linux: multicast with no artificial limitations. 1. What are ya using it for? (Hope it's not just NTP) 2. How can I get involved? 3. Why does the topic seem all-but-dead? 4. Does any software really _work_ with multicast other than NTP? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian FahrlÃnder Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://www.fahrlander.net ICQ 5119262 AIM: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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