Hi All I did an update of my Video drivers and now I can run x from startx at the prompt but it will not run from a boot using init 5 for some reason,.. here a Little of the messages file that I think will help somebody with more knowledge than I. hawks-place init: open(/dev/pts/0): No such file or directory Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10 Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-6111 Tue Jul 27 07:55:38 PDT 2004 Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:07 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:15 hawks-place gdm[2961]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Sep 28 01:00:18 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 28 01:00:18 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:18 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:18 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 28 01:00:18 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:18 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:26 hawks-place gdm[3018]: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Sep 28 01:00:30 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 28 01:00:30 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:30 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:31 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at 0000:00:00.0. Sep 28 01:00:31 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:00:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:00:31 hawks-place kernel: agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at 0000:01:00.0 into 4x mode Sep 28 01:04:37 hawks-place syslogd 1.4.1: restart. Sep 28 01:04:37 hawks-place syslog: syslogd startup succeeded Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: klogd 1.4.1, log source = /proc/kmsg started. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place syslog: klogd startup succeeded Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Linux version 2.6.8-1.521smp (bhcompile@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) (gcc version 3.3.3 20040412 (Red Hat Linux 3.3.3-7)) #1 SMP Mon Aug 16 09:25:06 EDT 2004 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: BIOS-provided physical RAM map: Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001fff0000 (usable) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: BIOS-e820: 000000001fff0000 - 000000001fff3000 (ACPI NVS) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: BIOS-e820: 000000001fff3000 - 0000000020000000 (ACPI data) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: 0MB HIGHMEM available. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: 511MB LOWMEM available. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ACPI: S3 and PAE do not like each other for now, S3 disabled. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place irqbalance: irqbalance startup succeeded Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: DMI 2.2 present. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Using APIC driver default Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ACPI: RSDP (v000 VIA694 ) @ 0x000f7040 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ACPI: RSDT (v001 VIA694 MSI ACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3000 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ACPI: FADT (v001 VIA694 MSI ACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x00000000) @ 0x1fff3040 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ACPI: DSDT (v001 VIA694 AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x4008 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Built 1 zonelists Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Kernel command line: ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet teinit 3 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Found and enabled local APIC! Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: mapped 4G/4G trampoline to fffeb000. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Initializing CPU#0 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: CPU 0 irqstacks, hard=023eb000 soft=023cb000 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Detected 802.106 MHz processor. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Using tsc for high-res timesource Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Memory: 513796k/524224k available (1896k kernel code, 9664k reserved, 736k data, 176k init, 0k highmem) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Calibrating delay loop... 1572.86 BogoMIPS Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: SELinux: Initializing. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: SELinux: Starting in permissive mode Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: There is already a security framework initialized, register_security failed. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: selinux_register_security: Registering secondary module capability Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Capability LSM initialized as secondary Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: CPU: L2 Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line) Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Intel machine check architecture supported. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: CPU0: AMD Duron(tm) Processor stepping 01 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: per-CPU timeslice cutoff: 182.80 usecs. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: task migration cache decay timeout: 1 msecs. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: SMP motherboard not detected. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ESR value before enabling vector: 00000000 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ESR value after enabling vector: 00000000 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Using local APIC timer interrupts. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: calibrating APIC timer ... Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ..... CPU clock speed is 801.0722 MHz. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: ..... host bus clock speed is 200.0430 MHz. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Brought up 1 CPUs Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: zapping low mappings. Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: Freeing initrd memory: 186k freed Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: NET: Registered protocol family 16 Sep 28 01:04:38 hawks-place kernel: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb290, last bus=1 did want to paste to much hope its enough to work with I'm thinking I need update gdm now after doing the Nvidia drivers Cheers Pete