On Tue, 2004-09-21 at 22:41, Kyle Maxwell wrote: > The post was off-topic (as you even noted in the subject line). There > are *many* other forums for security discussions (ISC as you > mentioned, the Incidents mailing list, etc.) and the least amount of > effort would have found them. Lots of people on this list are > interested in the US presidential election or possibly even the recent > release of Doom 3 but that does not mean that this is the place to > discuss it. > > Personally, I was very interested in the post itself (as network > security is my day job) but the post still should have been done in > the appropriate forum. This forum is "for users of Fedora Core > releases. If you want help with a problem installing or using Fedora > Core, this is the list for you." (from the Fedora website). Windows > security issues just aren't relevant. This is a tricky subject, one I hope doesn't turn into an enormous thread, and I think it calls for judgement on a case by case basis rather than rules. The post was off-topic, but there is some scope on this list for the occasional off-topic post. Especially when the nature of the post is tangentially related to the proper subject matter of this list (which the US presidential election and Doom 3 aren't). Lots of people use Fedora Core in ways which interact with Windows boxes -- maybe they run a mail server which is accessed by Windows machines, or maybe they use Samba to provide print and file-sharing services for Windows machines. Things which effect those Windows machines may come to effect the machine(s) running FC. I think that if off-topic posts are kept to a minimum, and replies to them don't get out-of-hand, and if a huge secondary thread doesn't develop on whether the post should have been posted at all, then posts like this should be acceptable. It just takes all of us to use our sound sober judgement on what to post in the first place, and what to reply to. Sometimes one off-topic post that was marginally acceptable generates a whole slew of replies waxing philosophical on what is on-topic and what is off-topic on the list, thereby doing far more damage than the original post ever did. (Oh. A bit like this one. Damn.) Best, Darren -- ===================================================================== D. D. Brierton darren@xxxxxxxxxxx www.dzr-web.com Trying is the first step towards failure (Homer Simpson) =====================================================================