I setup a system with FC2 with all the updates. I downloaded the java (j2re-1.4.2-04 or j2re-1.4.2-05) runtime environment from Sun and setup mozilla to use it (I had done this before on a RH9 system with no problems). When I go to a web page with java (say a Cisco PIX PDM page), mozilla dies. If I allow core dumps for mozilla, I get two core dump files, one for java and one for java_vm. I also tried the DAG java stuff from http://dag.wieers.com/packages/j2re/, but mozilla still dies. Mike Iglesias Email: iglesias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx University of California, Irvine phone: 949-824-6926 Network & Academic Computing Services FAX: 949-824-2069