-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 9:30 AM To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 266 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. upgrading (Michael Hart) 2. Yum and FC1 (Mike) 3. Package integrity (Bj?rn Persson) 4. Re: several recent mozilla crashes on FC1 (Clint Harshaw) 5. Re: Cron useage question (Gene Heskett) 6. Re: Cron useage question (Gene Heskett) 7. Re: upgrading (Hannes Mayer) 8. Re: Cron useage question (Gene Heskett) 9. Re: Yum and FC1 (Clint Harshaw) 10. "Draggy" UT performance with new kernel (Brian Fahrlander) 11. Re: Sound Problem (J Cole) 12. stuck on port 25 (Jean L?tourneau) 13. Re: OT: Setting up a forwarding mail domain in DMZ without pinhole. (Gene Delitzoy) 14. Re: Upgraded to new K3B version and now I cant burn CDs! (Andrew Konosky) 15. Re: Sound Problem (Andrew Konosky) 16. Re: stuck on port 25 (Hannes Mayer) 17. Re: Sound Problem (J Cole) 18. RE: OT: Setting up a forwarding mail domain in DMZ without pinhol e. (Cowles, Steve) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:29:55 +1000 From: Michael Hart <mixstat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: upgrading To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <412883B3.1080801@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Durig an update firefox was upgraded to verion firefox 0.9.3-0.fdr.4.i386 when it first ran it asked me if I wanted to convert the old bookmarks. I said no but really want to now. Is there any ay to make it reask or copy the old bookmarks? ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:03:03 -0400 From: Mike <mwpowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Yum and FC1 To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <1093176183.3764.5.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain Good Morning everyone, I've decided to try and use YUM. I read up on it a little bit and downloaded the yum.conf for fedora from Redhat's website. When I run yum check-update, I get the below output saying that the page cannot be found. When I plug the URL (at least the first one), It cannot be found. if I remove the end of the URL all the way to the /RPMS.stable/ sections, I get a list of RPMS, but no headers folder. If I change the url to reflect /fedora/2/ instead of /fedora/1/, I can see a headers folder. Is there another working mirror, or do I need to upgrade to FC2? Thanks everyone, Mike Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Fedora Core 1 - i386 - Base Server: Fedora.us Extras (Stable) retrygrab() failed for: http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.stable/headers/header.info Executing failover method retrygrab() failed for: http://fedora.quicknet.nl/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.stable/headers/header.info Executing failover method retrygrab() failed for: http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/fedora/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.stable/headers/header.info Executing failover method retrygrab() failed for: http://fedora.mirror.sdv.fr/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.stable/headers/header.info Executing failover method retrygrab() failed for: http://download.fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.stable/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://mirrors.kernel.org/fedora.us/fedora/fedora/1/i386/RPMS.stable/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:04:23 +0200 From: Bj?rn Persson <listor1.rombobeorn@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Package integrity To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <41288BC7.5050406@xxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed billg wrote: > Frankly, too, I was concerned about the integrity of > files I might pull down from unknown mirrors. Plenty of people seem to > be mirroring files, but how do I know that their files are copies of the > "official" files and not their own homebrew versions? You check the signatures. If you trust that the CD images you downloaded aren't tampered with, you have all you need. Install GnuPG from CD if it isn't installed already, and import Redhat's keys from the RPM-GPG-KEY files into RPM. Then turn on signature checking in Yum and Up2date. Björn Persson ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:11:01 -0400 From: Clint Harshaw <clint@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: several recent mozilla crashes on FC1 To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <41288D55.5080208@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Maurice F. Piller wrote: > I've experienced several crashes of mozilla this past week on two different > Fedora Core 1 boxes that are kept updated with yum. Anyone else having > problems? > > The mozilla version is 1.4.1-18, installed last November. > > --Chip You may need some more information to help diagnose the problem. Try running mozilla from the command line to browse to the site(s) that are crashing. (Maybe it's just bad coding on the site -- that is what is happening with my ISP's webmail service!). You can also run strace mozilla http://sitenamegoeshere.com to see if there are any bits of data that are helpful. Clint ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:19:38 -0400 From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Cron useage question To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: James Wilkinson <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200408220819.38900.gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sunday 22 August 2004 03:57, James Wilkinson wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> Humm, so it does! Thank you Alexander. Can anyone explain why >> the man 1 crontab page has not been deleted? Its so worthless it >> certainly should be nuked, 100%, totally. 1993 copyright indeed. >> This is 2004 in case nobody has told Paul Vixie. > >Can you explain why you think it's not needed? Crontab the command > is by far the easiest way of editing personal crontabs. (Besides, > it appears on a number of other Unices: I haven't checked, but > there are quite possibly Posix compatibility issues). > >James. Because its the file presented as default when typeing 'man crontab', and it tells you absolutely nothing of value other than the authors name and copyright date. The brief description of its intended use is so terse it doesn't enhance ones knowledge in any other way. That said, what I'd really like to see a text someplace that defines what manpage goes where, as that would help to prevent my confusion in the future. And that of course is the real problem, the "dumb old fart" syndrome. :-( The fact that I wrote a clone of it in MC6809EP assembly to run on os9 systems 17 years ago has long since faded from my memory banks. Sad, but true. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.24% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:21:35 -0400 From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Cron useage question To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: James Wilkinson <james@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200408220821.35336.gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sunday 22 August 2004 03:54, James Wilkinson wrote: >Steven Stern wrote: >> I added a blank space after the two hyphens. Does it come through? >> -- >> Steve > >Alexander Dalloz wrote: >> Yes, I can see the blank space, though your name is not recognized >> as a signature and thus not automatically deleted by Evolution >> when replying. > >Odd. Mutt recognises it fine. > >James. > FWIW, kmail never has auto-trimmed that stuff. See below. Should this be considered a bug? >-- >E-mail address: james | "The pound slumped amid rumours that John > Major was @westexe.demon.co.uk | about to resign. Teams of > analysts are now trying > > | to work out why." -- The Guardian. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.24% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 14:21:01 +0200 From: Hannes Mayer <h.mayer@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: upgrading To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <41288FAD.3070002@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Michael Hart wrote: > Durig an update firefox was upgraded to verion > > firefox 0.9.3-0.fdr.4.i386 > > when it first ran it asked me if I wanted to convert the old bookmarks. > I said no but really want to now. > > Is there any ay to make it reask or copy the old bookmarks? > > I don't know if that applies to FireFox too, but in mozilla you do: # mozilla -installer Cheers, Hannes. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:23:57 -0400 From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Cron useage question To: dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: fedora list <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200408220823.57100.gene.heskett@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On Sunday 22 August 2004 05:26, David L Norris wrote: >On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 23:30 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >> My problem is that I don't recall ever having seen a document >> that defines what the various manpage 'chapters' as you call >> them, are supposed to represent. > >Here's an overview of the traditional UNIX System Manual: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_manual > > >Here is a breakdown of the LDP system manual from the man-pages >documentation: > > Section 0p = POSIX headers > Section 1p = POSIX utilities > Section 3p = POSIX functions > > Section 1 = user commands (intro, and pages not maintained by > FSF) Section 2 = system calls > Section 3 = libc calls > Section 4 = devices (e.g., hd, sd) > Section 5 = file formats and protocols (e.g., wtmp, /etc/passwd, >nfs) > Section 6 = games (intro only) > Section 7 = conventions, macro packages, etc. > Section 8 = system administration (intro only) > > Usually, there are no section 1, 6 and 8 man pages because these > should be distributed with the binaries they are written for. > Sometimes Section 9 is used for man pages describing parts of > the kernel. > > Note that only Section 2 is rather complete, but Section 3 > contains several hundred man pages. Thank you very much Dave. Printed for posterity, whomever that is. :-) -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.24% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:29:31 -0400 From: Clint Harshaw <clint@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Yum and FC1 To: mwpowell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <412891AB.7000103@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Mike wrote: > Good Morning everyone, > > I've decided to try and use YUM. I read up on it a little bit and > downloaded the yum.conf for fedora from Redhat's website. When I run yum > check-update, I get the below output saying that the page cannot be > found. When I plug the URL (at least the first one), It cannot be found. > if I remove the end of the URL all the way to the /RPMS.stable/ > sections, I get a list of RPMS, but no headers folder. If I change the > url to reflect /fedora/2/ instead of /fedora/1/, I can see a headers > folder. Is there another working mirror, or do I need to upgrade to FC2? > > Thanks everyone, > > Mike > The headers for FC1 goodies are located in a slightly different url "style" than those for FC2 -- use this yum.conf for starters, and you'll see what I mean: http://www.fedorafaq.org/fc1/samples/yum.conf Hope this helps, Clint ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 07:31:50 -0500 From: Brian Fahrlander <brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: "Draggy" UT performance with new kernel To: Fedora List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1093177909.29011.7.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" After tuning the ACPI/whatever on the BIOS, the newer kernels are working fine and dandy. With just one exception, but I'm sure it's simple. kernel-2.6.8-1.521 seems to be perfect. In fact, just like the previous problem, it's probably a matter of tuning the scheduler, since I've not touched it. NO, OpenGL is working just fine in hardware. During gameplay, I see a *THREE SECOND* delay, repeated many times over a short game, making it very unplayable. Nothing else is running during this time; not playing mp3s, serving any files (the kids are asleep) and it happens at any time of the day. But since the latest fix was to the interrupt-system, maybe I need to set some priorities? The game offers no error messages...it's just losing timeslices here and there. There's nothing awry in /var/log/messages. Is this something new that people need to set for various performance levels under different loads? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Brian Fahrländer Christian, Conservative, and Technomad Evansville, IN http://www.fahrlander.net ICQ 5119262 AIM: WheelDweller ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Reduce them. > The noise is still there, louder then the sound I want to hear. again, under Red Hat Linux 7.3 and windows there is no noise but under fedora 2 there is, even though I have muted the inputs and set the volume at 70%. Is there another sound system to use or newer drivers! (This system should work?) From Jason Cole. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:46:00 -0400 From: Jean L?tourneau <electroblast@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: stuck on port 25 To: "fedora-list" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <JIEBKJIDLKPGDLGKBFGJCELFEAAA.electroblast@xxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Good day, I spend several hours trying to figure what is not working here... I check the archived and probably over looked. I can connect my port 25 if I use the terminal on the localhost (Linux box), but not from my lan. I disable the firewall, same thing. My service port 25 point to mail, and mail is there in my /bin, I bet you this is something very simple that I keep overlooking. But what? can you help?? Thanks Jean ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 07:03:48 -0600 From: Gene Delitzoy <delitzoy@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: OT: Setting up a forwarding mail domain in DMZ without pinhole. To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1093179828.29663.3.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Sun, 2004-08-22 at 03:58, Peter Boy wrote: > Am So, den 22.08.2004 schrieb Sanjay Arora um 08:26: > > I want the DMZ server to receive the mails from the internet, for the > > domains, it is set up as first MX and keep them in its queues. I want > > the Green server to periodically connect to the DMZ qmail server and get > > all mails from it...as the DMZ server cannot connect to it due to the > > iptables firewall. > > The SMTP does not support your model to use your "green" server to > "pull" mail from the DMZ server. It is a "push" type communication > model. > > So you have to use something like > - pop protocol to transfer the mail (e.g. fetchmail) > - nfs/ftp to periodically transfer the mailbox files > - use cron to peridically allow incoming smtp on the firewall > and initiate a resend on the DMZ mailserver > > > > Peter > > > > pretty easy to do this if not exactly the way you want, setup your dmz machine to answer for your domains(mx), then use transport maps to send all mail for those domains to your specified host. This is with postfix, postmap transport after your finished. http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#firewall ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:07:23 -0500 From: Andrew Konosky <TerranAce007@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Upgraded to new K3B version and now I cant burn CDs! To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <41289A8B.8060006@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" bdw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >First of all, are you running Linux kernel 2.6.8.1? If so, you'll want to >drop down to 2.6.7, 2.6.8.x has a bug that prevents k3b from burning CDs, >unless you're root. > >--Brian > > > >>I upgraded the K3B rpm to the new version k3b-0.11.14-0.fdr.0.2, and now >>I can't write CDs. In the device detection screen, My Plexwriter >>24x10x40x (/dev/hdc) says it cannot write CD-Rs now, but it still can >>write CD-RWs. What is the deal with this? Is it just a bug in the new >>version, or was something changed in the program that I need to adjust >>my system settings for? >> >> > > > > > Yep, that was the problem. I dropped back down to 2.6.7-1.456 and now I can burn CDs again. Thanks! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /archives/fedora-list/attachments/20040822/3c7e42a8/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:17:34 -0500 From: Andrew Konosky <TerranAce007@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Sound Problem To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <41289CEE.2030501@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed J Cole wrote: > To How It May Concern, > > I have Fedora 2, when installed it configured my sound as es-1371, my > sound card is a Creative Sounblaster 128 (New). > > The problem I have is that I can hear sound, but it has a lot of > noise. I have used different speaker attachments to check the external > connection but its still is has noise. > > with the same hardware under Red hat 7.3 (standard, out of the box > installation) worked fine. > > Has anyone had the same trouble, should I update ALSA or go back to > the sound engine RH 7.3 used? > > Thank's, > > Jason Cole > > I was having a sound problem too. I don't know what you mean by noise, but I was getting a static hiss out of the left speaker that wouldn't go away unless I turned my speakers off. I did a google search and found the answer. If your running Gnome, click on the volume icon in your system panel and go to properties. Turn the volume all the way down on the digital-1 channel. In KDE, run kmix and turn off IEC958 in the advanced menu. ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:27:45 +0200 From: Hannes Mayer <h.mayer@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: stuck on port 25 To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <41289F51.9010002@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Jean Létourneau wrote: > Good day, > I spend several hours trying to figure what is not working here... > I check the archived and probably over looked. > > I can connect my port 25 if I use the terminal on the localhost (Linux box), > but not from my lan. I disable the firewall, same thing. My service port 25 > point to mail, and mail is there in my /bin, I bet you this is something > very simple that I keep overlooking. But what? can you help?? If I understand your problem correctly, you can't connect to sendmail from other machines ? If that is the case, stop sendmail, look in /etc/mail/sendmail.cf for: # SMTP daemon options O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA and change it to: O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=0.0.0.0, Name=MTA That will tell sendmail to accept connections from any IP. Start sendmail and try # telnet mailsrv 25 from other machines. I assume you can also set the DaemonPortOptions to accept only mail from i.e. 192.168.*.* . Have a look in the manual - I've not tried this yet. Cheers, Hannes. ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 21:28:50 +0800 From: J Cole <colejp@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Sound Problem To: Fedora List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <41289F92.3030104@xxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Thanks to Andrew Konosky for solving my problem :) The Noise is a hiss that comes out the speakers. Andre suggested: In KDE, run kmix and turn off IEC958 in the advanced menu. THANKS Jason Cole :) ------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 08:28:58 -0500 From: "Cowles, Steve" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: OT: Setting up a forwarding mail domain in DMZ without pinhol e. To: "'For users of Fedora Core releases'" <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <90769AF04F76D41186C700A0C90AFC3E320E4C@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain Sanjay Arora wrote: > Hmmm...dont like to tamper with firewalls...reason they are there is > that there is risk involved...dont make sense that I increase > perceived risk even for small timeslots, just to impose what I think > should happen. > > Guess will implement mailboxes on DMZ and Green both, scripted to > download mail from one to the other or some similar permutation. Any > idea on how to broadly do it. Dont need to give me the installation > details...just an idea how to set it up...Anyone? > > Thanks again, Peter. > Sanjay. Without relaxing your security policy between dmz->green (even during a specifed timeslot), I don't see that you have much choice but to use a program like fetchmail to pull (download) your e-mail from the DMZ server. If I had to deal with a security policy such as yours, I would look at configuring the DMZ mail server to store all inbound e-mail in a single mailbox (single password vs. multiple), then use fetchmail's multi-drop feature to retrieve e-mail from your DMZ server and then store the retrieved e-mail in individual mailboxes on the green server. See "man fetchmail" for examples of using multi-drop and especially the USER AUTHENTICATION AND ENCRYPTION section for password encryption between the green server and DMZ server. Another option might be to create an SSH tunnel between the green->DMZ server to pull your queued e-mail. You know, if you were willing to relax your security policy for a given timeslot (like a cronjob), you could configure your DMZ MTA to use a "deferred" queue, then issue an ETRN (during the cronjob) to release/deliver your e-mail to the green server. --Steve Cowles ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 266 *******************************************