I would like to play with XFCE 4. I installed the rpms on the CD's and they didn't work very well. xffm lacked icons, and when I logged in, things were really weird looking. So, I updated things with the rpms on the newrpms site. Sigh, no change. I'm still missing icons and I get weird errors when I log into xfce. Has anyone else had this problem, and what did you do about it? --andy