I have fc2, with apt-get and the things on this page done to the system... http://home.gagme.com/greg/linux/fc2-tips.php While connecting to session manager: Could not open network socket. This is produced from running gnome or kde apps, after I am in X for a while, whether it be in kde or gnome session. I can usually get it to stop for a while by restarting X. Once this starts, some programs will not run, and nearly all others take much longer to start. help? _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com