-----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:34:46 To:fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: fedora-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 411 Send fedora-list mailing list submissions to fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to fedora-list-request@xxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at fedora-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of fedora-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Questions (Jonathan Hooker) 2. Re: freeware x-server (Paul) 3. FC2 media check fails on one system (RDD IT) 4. RE: text login (Rafiq_Maniar@xxxxxxxx) 5. Re: text login (Alexander Dalloz) 6. Re: freeware x-server (Dennis Gilmore) 7. Re: Questions (Alexander Dalloz) 8. Re: text login (Terry Polzin) 9. Re: freeware x-server (Michael Griffin) 10. Re: Driver/display problems with ATI FireGL Z1-128 and Viewsonic LCDs (John Wendel) 11. Re: text login (Alexander Dalloz) 12. Re: point2play-1.3-2+cedega-4.0-1+FC2(2.6.6-1.435.2.3) help?? (Scot L. Harris) 13. Re: freeware x-server (Scot L. Harris) 14. re: Summer Reading (Ian T.) 15. Re: point2play-1.3-2+cedega-4.0-1+FC2(2.6.6-1.435.2.3) help?? (Darren Grant) 16. Re: Fedora Core 2 and Lucent WinModem (Mike Zingale) 17. Re: freeware x-server (Jeff Vian) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 11:58:52 -0500 From: "Jonathan Hooker" <theflier13@xxxxxxx> Subject: Questions To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <!~!UENERkVCMDkAAQACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABgAAAAAAAAASinOxGigekW8NrGfVjDPVMKAAAAQAAAAxt7hdOTofkqpE731Qss/zQEAAAAA@xxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi! I'm new here and I have a few questions. First of all what files are required to install Fedora? Is there a kernel that would allow me to run Windows XP on top of fedora? And, is there documentation for the installation of Fedora yet? Thanks a lot! Jonathan theflier13@xxxxxxx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /archives/fedora-list/attachments/20040729/d030852a/attachment.htm ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 17:59:27 +0100 From: Paul <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: freeware x-server To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1091120367.3580.171.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, > I have to use a Windows XP machine at my office, but I have a FC1 box > sitting at home that I routinely access via SSH sessions during lunch. > I would like to be able to test some GUI-based applications I'm > writing on there, but I don't have any x-server software for the > windows PC. My question is, is there any good, free or cheap windows > based x-server software available? And also, can I use it over an SSH > session? >From long distant memory, there was a product called X-Windows (X for Windows). No idea if it's still around - google will though. As for SSH and running the app remotely, you should be able to under FC1. You won't under FC2. TTFN Paul -- "Look. If you had one shot, one opportunity, to seize everything you ever wanted. One moment to capture or would you just let it slip?" - Marshall Mathers III (Lose Yourself) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Switched out the CD-ROM drives between the two machines, so that the one that had passed the CD was now in my FC2-ToBe machine. Boot up, test media -- fail. So.....apparently FC2 does not like something about my machine's hardware..? Have other people experienced similar issues? Are there known issues with certain types of hardware -- particular hard drives, motherboards, CPUs, etc. that FC2 is not compatible with? I can post more detailed specs on the system later if needed (at work now)... There is nothing terribly outdated about it, and it all worked fine on RH9.0. Thanks a lot for any help! _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 18:02:07 +0100 From: <Rafiq_Maniar@xxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: text login To: <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <46FBC2A5C9A1124DB517D99D0485D04F0128EF76@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In /etc/inittab you should have the following line(s): 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 .... The 2nd field there lists the runlevels that mingetty (the login program) should run in. I'm guessing you're missing '5' there. Rafiq -----Original Message----- From: Sameer Kamat [mailto:sameer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 29 July 2004 17:57 To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: text login Hi I have the default in inittab to run at 5(GUI mode). It works fine, but if I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 I do not see anything but a black screen. If I set the inittab default to runlevel 3, then I do get to a text login screen, however when I run startx to get to the GUI I lose the text console. Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should be doing to fix this ? Thanks, Sameer Kamat Unitrends Software Corporation sameer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 803-454-0300 ext 211 -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:03:58 +0200 From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: text login To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1091120638.3268.336.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Am Do, den 29.07.2004 schrieb Sameer Kamat um 18:56: > I have the default in inittab to run at 5(GUI mode). It works fine, but > if I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 I do > not see anything but a black screen. If I set the inittab default to > runlevel 3, > then I do get to a text login screen, however when I run startx to get to > the GUI I lose the text console. > > Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should be doing to fix this ? > Sameer Kamat You have by default 6 consoles which you can reach from X running by pressing Strg+Alt+F[1-6] (means function keys 1 to 6). You switch between the consoles by just Alt+F[1-6] once you left X, still running on Alt+F7. If you use startx then append a & to the end, reads "startx &". This will keep your console usable though you switch to X mode. Go back to the startx console, say it is tty1, by using Strg+Alt+F1. But I would suggest you try to find out whats causing the black screen when switching from X to console. Do you use a framebuffer console? Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3.ad.umlsmp Serendipity 18:59:07 up 3 days, 4:05, load average: 0.10, 0.12, 0.10 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil Url : /archives/fedora-list/attachments/20040729/0708db68/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:09:02 -0500 From: Dennis Gilmore <dennis@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: freeware x-server To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200407291209.12542.dennis@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Once upon a time Thursday 29 July 2004 11:59 am, Paul wrote: > From long distant memory, there was a product called X-Windows (X for > Windows). No idea if it's still around - google will though. > > As for SSH and running the app remotely, you should be able to under > FC1. You won't under FC2. Who says you cant in FC2? i do it all the time in FC3 you wont be able to unless you run ssh -X <host> but you still can do it, the default wont have X forwarding enabled but you can do it on a case by case basis Dennis -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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You could run Fedora and Windows[tm] in dual-boot - for which you will find a lot of information in the list archive and detailed instructions by a google search - or you could use a software like VMware to install Windows[tm] on a virtual PC inside Fedora as a host system. > And, is there documentation for the > installation of Fedora yet? You can use the installation documentation for Redhat (9 or RHEL3): http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/ > Jonathan Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3.ad.umlsmp Serendipity 19:05:14 up 3 days, 4:11, load average: 0.16, 0.09, 0.08 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm guessing you're missing '5' there. > > Rafiq > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sameer Kamat [mailto:sameer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: 29 July 2004 17:57 > To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > Subject: text login > > > Hi > I have the default in inittab to run at 5(GUI mode). It works fine, > but if I hit CTRL+ALT+F1 I do > not see anything but a black screen. If I set the inittab default to > runlevel 3, > then I do get to a text login screen, however when I run startx to get to > the GUI I lose the text console. > > Does anyone have any thoughts on what I should be doing to fix this ? > > Thanks, > Sameer Kamat > Unitrends Software Corporation > sameer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > 803-454-0300 ext 211 > > > -- > fedora-list mailing list > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:13:00 -0400 From: Michael Griffin <mkgriffin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: freeware x-server To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1091121180.7204.6.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 12:53, mmarkiw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi all, > > I have to use a Windows XP machine at my office, but I have a FC1 box sitting at home that I routinely access via SSH sessions during lunch. I would like to be able to test some GUI-based applications I'm writing on there, but I don't have any x-server software for the windows PC. My question is, is there any good, free or cheap windows based x-server software available? And also, can I use it over an SSH session? > > I appreciate any help you might be able to give. > Thanks! > -Mike > > Try http://x.cygwin.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:16:33 -0700 From: John Wendel <john.wendel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Driver/display problems with ATI FireGL Z1-128 and Viewsonic LCDs To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <200407291016.33299.john.wendel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Thursday 29 July 2004 08:06 am, Sean E. Millichamp wrote: > I recently convinced my boss to let me upgrade my displays to the > following: > ATI FireGL Z1-128 > 2 x Viewsonic VP201s > Running Fedora Core 2 + updates and the included radeon driver. ... > I didn't try the ATI binary only drivers for this card because they only > say they support XFree86 4.3. > I don't have the nice setup that you have, but I can verify that the ATI binary drivers work with FC2 and X.org. I'd give them a try. You'll need to install a small patch. Google will quickly reveal the voodoo needed, or you can contact me directly and I'll email the patch and instructions. Regards, John Wendel ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 19:18:01 +0200 From: Alexander Dalloz <alexander.dalloz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: text login To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1091121480.3268.346.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Am Do, den 29.07.2004 schrieb Rafiq_Maniar@xxxxxxxx um 19:02: > In /etc/inittab you should have the following line(s): > > 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 > 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1 > .... > > The 2nd field there lists the runlevels that mingetty (the login program) should run in. I'm guessing you're missing '5' there. > > Rafiq Running manually "startx" to get X server running does not change the runlevel at all from 3 to 5. So that is hardly the cause. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG key 1024D/ED695653 1999-07-13 Fedora GNU/Linux Core 2 (Tettnang) kernel 2.6.6-1.435.2.3.ad.umlsmp Serendipity 19:16:45 up 3 days, 4:23, load average: 0.04, 0.09, 0.10 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil Url : /archives/fedora-list/attachments/20040729/e3b7f1ec/attachment.bin ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:15:50 -0400 From: "Scot L. Harris" <webid@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: point2play-1.3-2+cedega-4.0-1+FC2(2.6.6-1.435.2.3) help?? To: Fedora List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1091121350.20788.38.camel@lathe> Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 12:39, Darren Grant wrote: > > So in short, I can't get any games to run using point2play and cedega. > Has anyone successfully gotten games to run via p2p+cedega on the 2.6 > kernel of FC2? > > I'm also using an ati radeon mobility m9 graphics card (which I have > setup correctly using ATI's latest proprietary driver glfx-4.3.0-3.9.0). > > I'm using the 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 kernel. > > I also have no problem running native-linux games such as UT2004 and UFO. > > Any help would be appreciated... > > -Darren Do you have iptables running or have a firewall in front of your broadband connection? From the description it sounds like it attempts to make a connection but then fails. Most likely a firewall issue. -- Scot L. Harris webid@xxxxxxxxxx Decision maker, n.: The person in your office who was unable to form a task force before the music stopped. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:24:42 -0400 From: "Scot L. Harris" <webid@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: freeware x-server To: Fedora List <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1091121882.20790.42.camel@lathe> Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 12:53, mmarkiw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Hi all, > > I have to use a Windows XP machine at my office, but I have a FC1 box sitting at home that I routinely access via SSH sessions during lunch. I would like to be able to test some GUI-based applications I'm writing on there, but I don't have any x-server software for the windows PC. My question is, is there any good, free or cheap windows based x-server software available? And also, can I use it over an SSH session? > > I appreciate any help you might be able to give. > Thanks! > -Mike Check out the cygwin project. You can setup a fairly extensive unix like environment on windows, including an x server that will handle x11 forwarding for your applications. You can also use their ssh or putty with the x11 server cygwin provides. -- Scot L. Harris webid@xxxxxxxxxx All bad precedents began as justifiable measures. -- Gaius Julius Caesar, quoted in "The Conspiracy of Catiline", by Sallust ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:26:27 -0500 From: "Ian T." <itschaotic@xxxxxxxx> Subject: re: Summer Reading To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <41093343.3000300@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Nate wrote: Hello All, I contacted the list yesterday regarding a problem getting my DSL connection working. I am pleased to report that it is now working with all the help. I was wondering if anyone had suggestions on a good linux book. I have linux for non-geeks, but it is lacking in detail. I guess I should face the fact that I am a geek and find something a little bit more meaty. Has Oprah suggested anything? Thanks Again, Nate -- () ascii ribbon campaign - /\ against html mail against microsoft attachments ===================== Hi Nate and all. The O'Reilly publications should keep you tied up for a while if it's geek-speak you are after. Not always the most entertaining but I have a few.. heh Rebel Code by Glyn Moody was a great read for me. Well researched, entertaining and he had access to many of the major players. He's a good writer and treated the subject with respect. I suppose to me that means that he retained some objectivity while celebrating an exciting period in our history. A good summer read. ian ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:28:07 -0700 From: Darren Grant <darren.grant@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: point2play-1.3-2+cedega-4.0-1+FC2(2.6.6-1.435.2.3) help?? To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <410933A7.2090100@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Scot L. Harris wrote: >On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 12:39, Darren Grant wrote: > > > >>So in short, I can't get any games to run using point2play and cedega. >>Has anyone successfully gotten games to run via p2p+cedega on the 2.6 >>kernel of FC2? >> >>I'm also using an ati radeon mobility m9 graphics card (which I have >>setup correctly using ATI's latest proprietary driver glfx-4.3.0-3.9.0). >> >>I'm using the 2.6.6-1.435.2.3 kernel. >> >>I also have no problem running native-linux games such as UT2004 and UFO. >> >>Any help would be appreciated... >> >>-Darren >> >> > >Do you have iptables running or have a firewall in front of your >broadband connection? From the description it sounds like it attempts >to make a connection but then fails. Most likely a firewall issue. > > I have a broadband connection behind a firewall... however all outgoing ports are open... and I have no trouble connecting to steam with my credentials... getting updates/downloads for steam and mods... as well as querying servers, etc... As well it's not just online games I'm having trouble with... ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 10:27:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Zingale <zingale@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Fedora Core 2 and Lucent WinModem To: fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.53.0407291024330.11732@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Marcello, I was able to get this to work with FC2 using the supplied build_rpm script. You must upgrade to a 2.6.6 kernel first -- just use up2date to get the latest FC2 kernel -- the 2.6.5 kernel does not work with the Lucent Winmodem driver. build_rpm will create an rpm that you can then install and it will automatically setup all the proper links and module loadings for you. Mike > Can somebody help me? I installed Fedora Core 2 on a Compaq Armada V300 > Notebook, and this notebook has a built-in Lucent Windomes DSP. I > downloaded th ltmodem rpm package, but I dont have the skills to compile > the kernel with this modems. > Marcelo Ferreira da Costa ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 12:34:02 -0500 From: Jeff Vian <jvian10@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: freeware x-server To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <1091122442.4740.165.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 11:55, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 mmarkiw@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I have to use a Windows XP machine at my office, but I have a FC1 box > > sitting at home that I routinely access via SSH sessions during lunch. > > I would like to be able to test some GUI-based applications I'm writing > > on there, but I don't have any x-server software for the windows PC. > > My question is, is there any good, free or cheap windows based x-server > > http://www.cygwin.com/ > > includes xf86 builkt for win32... > And use X forwarding with ssh to do that. Works like a charm for me. > > software available? And also, can I use it over an SSH session? > > > > I appreciate any help you might be able to give. > > Thanks! > > -Mike > > > > > > > > -- > > fedora-list mailing list > > fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joel Jaeggli Unix Consulting joelja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > GPG Key Fingerprint: 5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 56B2 > ------------------------------ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list End of fedora-list Digest, Vol 5, Issue 411 ******************************************* Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
