I'm curious why up2date still skips all kernel* rpms from installation by default. I realize that installing a new kernel RPM is a big deal but the kernel is also by it's nature a very important package to have up to date for security and stability purposes. It would seem to me that removing it from the skiplist in /etc/sysconfig/rhn/up2date and keeping it in the "install not update" list by default would make Fedora somewhat more secure (especially for those users who are clueless about this). Also, I've noticed that when kernels are installed, not updated, grub.conf continues to use the old kernel as the default boot option, maybe this should be changed to? Jay -- Jay Lee Network / Systems Administrator Information Technology Dept. Philadelphia Biblical University -- I like to say "quark"! Quark, quark, quark, quark! --Calvin