I am not sure exactly what is the problem. I have tried as best as I can to trace the problem which occurred after installing fc2 (I did a new install rather than an upgrade). Whenever I try to run evolution, sylpheed, or squirrelmail and the account that it is trying to connect to is an imap account (I only have them connected to that type of an account), I get the message "IMAP server mail.mydomain.org, could not connect to mail.mydomain.org (port 143) connection refused." In my iptables it is suppose to accept port 143 and in the hosts.allow file I have it set to accept. I do not get any errors in my message file. I do get the message when I run "service dovecot status", "dovecot dead but subsys locked". this concerns me but I am not sure why it does that. What am I missing? what should I check? This is the first time I am using dovecot so I don't know if this is the answer. One more thing. I can retrieve email using kmail, but it does not use imap, just uses the /var/spool/mail/username. Avram ----------- You know you're getting old when you talk about what you've done, rather than what you're going to do.