On Sun, Jul 18, 2004 at 01:39:29PM +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > > My guess is that most people will be upgrading from FC2 to FC3, > > and that's what testing is trying to target. > > I don't understand the relevance of this remark, > or indeed what it means. > Note that the question was, did I have any suggestion > how the number of _testers_ could be increased. > I admit I didn't do a good job explaining myself. You said you'd be more likely to test if you could upgrade from a test release. My point was that if we concentrate on making a test release upgradeable to a full release, we don't test the installer. At any rate all these issues have been on my mind the past few days, and I admit you have changed my perspective. I still disagree with many of your disagreements with the Fedora way of doing things, but you are right that there needs to be more testing. I just wrote a page and a half on fedora-test-list in response to a post about why traffic on that list is so low. I do think there should be more testing, and testing should be easier to get involved with. I proposed that we should do more to encourage people to test, and that we should have a plan in place to educate people on how to test effectively. I feel like since I opened my mouth, and have a couple spare boxes to test on I need to get involved in helping make this happen. I understand you (and others) may not be in that position. Your opinions have caused me to think a lot in the last few days, and again I don't agree with a lot of it, but you have earned my respect.