I had installed FC1 on one of my desktop pentium2s, and then on my wife's desktop athlon, got yum pointing at the Tech mirror, updated, and everything swam. Both installs were from the DVD in Ball& Hoyt -- the full thing, *all* of FC1, according to the book. Yesterday I finally installed FC1 on my other desktop p2 -- from the CDs that came with Petreley's book, since that box lacks a DVD drive. I did eventually get yum pointing at the Tech mirror and working, but only on about the third try from root's login. Would you believe it took all that and a few reboots -- just to get a prompt? Even then, only root got a prompt, and only by signing on from a fresh reboot. My user (btth) terminals never did. And still haven't. I left the machine running, after telling each Gnome terminal either to reset or to reset and clear, all night. There are still no prompts. I've tried all the suggestions I found for recovering a terminal after ssh (even though ssh is not involved): ~. and ~& and others, with and without extra strokes to <enter> before and after. Nary a prompt. I've hunted through the gnome terminal help, too. It says the gnome terminal responds to standard escape sequences -- but doesn't list them ... Alltheweb gives me lots about escape sequences, and even some about customizing the prompt -- if you have one; but it doesn't seem to envisage being stuck behind a blank terminal. I've experimented with editing the profile, and with various combinations of <escape>, tilde, <enter>, and other keys; but haven't hit on the magic. Any ideas?? -- Beartooth Implacable, curmudgeonly codger learning linux Life is hunting, hunting life -- all ye know on earth, and all ye need to know.