James Lawrence said: > not sure what i'm looking for so please be patient.... Which would be why I left in what I told you to look for the first time... [snip] > #up2date default Hmm... looks like you are configured correctly. Try moving your "systemid" file out of the way (though it shouldn't matter). What is the output of: rpm -qa | grep up2date rpm -qa | grep rhn-applet Also to double check, run up2date-nox --configure and make sure that option 1 (the usrRhn option) is set to No. -- William Hooper