On Thursday 24 June 2004 22:05, Erik Espinoza wrote: >Oh, I see. You also want to know how to rip. I guess I didn't finish >reading the entire message. For ripping I use old school cdparanoia. >It does a decent job and spits things out in wav format. Then I use >k3b to burn. > >Erik I think this poster may be confused by the '.wav' label applied to the ripped music file. To answer that question, the data on a red book cd is a .wav format already, with no compression pre-applied to what is basicly a 16 bit definition digital audio data stream, and applied with relatively little regard for the niceties of a real filesystem. Burning the .wav files that result from ripping with cdparanoia should normally make a disk that will play in your "ancient" player. The mp3 format is a patented, commercially available compression method that can shrink a 40 megabyte song down to 4 or 5 megs of data. And it sounds pretty close to the original sonicly, with what I'd describe as a bit of blurring on transient sounds. Because mp3 is patented, and not free, licenses going for $15K-$25 to use it, the free "ogg" encoder was developed, and which uses none of the patented methods that the mp3 format uses. The compression achieved is quite comparable to that achieved by the mp3 encoders. But those of us with what we like to call "golden ears", will pick the ogg version as the better sounding version of a piece of music a surprisingly large percentage of the time. I've tried both, and its the ogg format thats better here, pretty close to 100% of the time. Note that since either method is a lossy method in that some information the ear doesn't use all that much of is thrown away, but because the two methods differ in what they throw away, re-encoding an mp3 to an ogg, or vice-versa, will result in some pretty obvious distortions, so one must start with the original material to make either format of file. Those files won't play on the regular audio cd player of course as it hasn't the required brains to uncompress the data back to an approximation of the original. I hope this clarifies things a bit for the original poster. > >On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:01:43 -0500, Bob Hartung <rwhart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Erik, >> That sounds great but I could not figure out how to rip with k3b >> and found no useful information on the k3b web site. >> >> Back to google. Thanks! >> >> Bob >> >> Erik Espinoza wrote: >> >Why not just use k3b or one of the graphical burning software >> > packages that comes with Fedora? >> > >> >Erik >> > >> >On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 19:45:15 -0500, Bob Hartung <rwhart@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>Hi all, >> >> I am a newbie to this so here goes. I want to rip some very >> >> old CDs and then rerecord the songs onto CDs that will play in >> >> an "ancient" cd player. This player is able to play the >> >> original CDs, I just want to cut out the crap that I always >> >> have to skip over. So far I see lots of references to MP3 >> >> encoding using Grip and Lame. Also references to Ogg Orbis >> >> (sp?) and WAV formats. However, I see no references to the >> >> original CD format. Do I just rip them to a "raw" file format >> >> , collect the raw files into an iso and then burn the iso to CD >> >> with cdrecord dev=0,0,0 [filename}? >> >> >> >> Help, directions all appreciated. >> >> >> >>TIA >> >> >> >>Bob Hartung >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>fedora-list mailing list >> >>fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> >>To unsubscribe: >> >> http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list >> >> -- >> fedora-list mailing list >> fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx >> To unsubscribe: http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list -- Cheers, Gene There are 4 boxes to be used in defense of liberty. Soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order, starting now. -Ed Howdershelt, Author Additions to this message made by Gene Heskett are Copyright 2004, Maurice E. Heskett, all rights reserved.
