Andy, Tnx a lot, this is the kind of answer I've been hoping for... On Tue, 2004-06-22 at 18:51, Andy Green wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tuesday 22 June 2004 09:51, Dexter Ang wrote: > > Hi - > > > Realibility will depend on the number of people testing "test" releases. > > If you want a quality release, you should help out by testing and > > reporting bugs. If you can't afford to use your machine for testing, > > your best hope is to report bugs and wait for fixes. There really is so > > many hardware to test on, that the chances of certain configurations not > > working is very high. > > To be fair this is not the only factor: witholding the release until the > nastiest known bugs are squished is as critical. This is a pure RH decision. > > I thought you made a good answer Dexter, but I have seen a lot of posts lately > blowing off all criticism of FC2, when there clearly have been serious > troubles. Acknowledging the problems and going on in a way to avoid them > next time would be the right solution. > > > > My question now is whether I should give up on FC2 (I'm really tempted) > > > and go back to FC1 or hang in there. > > Only you can answer this. Despite the hassle, gaining experience with the 2.6 > kernel and the latest stuff is valuable. I guess it turns on whether you see > hassle has that upside or if it just hassle to you. > > > > - Will I experience more of these surprises with FC2? > > Probably, but SuSE for example has its share of 2.6-related surprises too it > seems. > > > > - How fast will issues be attented to through updates? The PCMCIA issue > > > is known, so is the ide_info issue (since FC2 test3), but still no fix > > > today. > > The RH folks pick their own targets and will get to stuff at their own speed > (this is the same everywhere of course). I had a bug with memory management > in the kernel that sat there in Bugzilla for months and months, it got > mentioned in the list recently [NB: with a link to the Bugzilla entry to make > it easy for them], somebody from RH looked at it then and it was fixed > quickly and very effectively. So I think mentioning your problem from time > to time on the list with a Bugzilla link may jog memories. > > > > - Is this what we have to expect from a "community distro" in the long > > > run? As with RH9 the last consumer-distro is discontinued, my logical > > > conclusion would then be to leave RH behind and move on to another > > > packager, say Suse? > > SuSE may not be the panacea you are hoping for, it certainly isn't any more > community driven than Fedora. I know SuSE fanboys are using the FC2 problems > to beat FC2 users up, since I had some of that myself, but have a look around > on the SuSE user ml archives and you'll see a similar amount of difficulties. > Some folks have recommended Debian as the next stop if Fedora is not > inclusive enough. There was also some "community" distro Bruce Perens was > starting up, but he picked Gnome as the single official desktop for it and > that is a big turn-off for me at least. > > > > A bit disappointed, > > It could have done with a release delay by a few weeks. But it is not > actually as bad in the general case as your bad experience has indicated to > you. > > BTW you mention USB/updfstab: something is really screwed with USB in current > (RH?) kernels at the moment, leading to data loss on transfers from USB > Storage devices like cameras. > > - -Andy > > - -- > Automatic actions for USB cameras, cardreaders, memory sticks, MP3 players > http://warmcat.com/usbautocam > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFA2A8kjKeDCxMJCTIRAnbNAJ4lscptPz/fQU6kMkNQ3oW7gqrouwCdFRkk > dkUTztmySsZB/b/0Yj61c1g= > =M7CD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----