On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 01:06:08PM -0400, Sean Estabrooks wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:04:32 -0500 > akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > Statments like this make me angry. The people who distribute fedora > > work for RedHat. RedHat distributes Fedora. Fedora is a redhat product > > used to test ideas that > > will be put in the Enterprise system. Tom got over heated but many of > > us who can't afford to buy 80 RedHat Enterprise systems must rely on > > Fedora. And there is no reason that known bugs can't be fixed. > > > > We can't afford to licence 80 Windows XP systems either. > > > > > Ahh, it finally comes out, its not about you wanting to provide > testers, its about what _you_ need! > > Fedora is not a product, it's not for sale, you can't buy it. > RedHat is under no obligation to provide you with ANYTHING let alone > something you can afford. RedHat has educational offerings that > are very reasonably priced. There are other distributions that > are available as well. You could make your own distribution > too. You seem to think RedHat owes you something. Very Strange. > > RedHat is probably the victim of their own success, they "trained" > way too many people into thinking Linux was a no-cost operating > system. They didn't do a good job letting people know it was > about freedom, not necessarily zero dollars. Way too many people > ended up thinking it was a freebie, taking it for granted and not > being the least bit thankful or respectful. > > Now we have to listen to people make post after post complaining > that there is no free ride any more. Guess what, there never was, > you just misunderstood the situation. Now it's time for people to > get the message. Will some people leave RedHat? Yes of course > they will, but they weren't the people keeping RedHat in business > anyway. People who enjoy the benefits of RedHats contributions > (and that's all Linux users, including users of other distributions) > should hope for their financial success. > > The overreaction to a few bugs making it into a Fedora is stunning. > Future releases will be better, well who knows some may be worse, but > that hardly matters. Fedora is still a great contribution from > RedHat; but that doesn't mean its for everybody. If Fedora isn't > appropriate for your needs, find something that is. > > Regards, > Sean > In someways what you say is true but RedHat offerers no more support to me with fedora that it offered on any other distribution. In fact what happened is something I have said all along. You can not make money selling open software which you also give away. The truth is there is a distribution of Linux called Centos which is RH Enterprise Linux fully free in binary and source form with out the proprietary extras. So actually I could afford RedHat Enterprise Linux without paying them. And get the support I have always gotten from user lists.- ------------------------------------------- Aaron Konstam Computer Science Trinity University One Trinity Place. San Antonio, TX 78212-7200 telephone: (210)-999-7484 email:akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxx
