On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 04:54:11PM +0000, Christensen Tom wrote: > destroyed a good product and a good name by not following the #1 tenet of > open source software, namely RELEASE WHEN ITS READY!!! "Release early, release often" is the catch phrase I usually associate with open source software that moves at a rapid development pace like Fedora. Seems rather at odds with your expectations. Perhaps Red Hat's enterprise products would better meet your needs. > Get your act together re-release new ISOs > that fix these 2 problems within 2 weeks or you are costing redhat an > estimated 50k/yr in licenses that I control. We will be moving to > Novell/Suse. If you're using Fedora, you're definitely not giving them much in the way of money for it. Community-supported product. Repeat that phrase to yourself a few times until you get it. Fedora and Red Hat's enterprise lineup have nothing to do with each other, other than Red Hat providing infrastructure (and a few employees ;-). And if you think the non-Red Hat members of this list give a damn about your "take my ball and go home" hissy fit attitude, you're quite mistaken. Not that I think you have "an estimated 50k/yr in licenses" in your control; if you did, you'd be talking to your sales rep about this, rather than whining and making demands on the public mailing list of a community-driven product from your Hotmail account. -- Edward S. Marshall <esm@xxxxxxxxx> http://esm.logic.net/ Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.