Well thanks for not telling me to STFU anyway. On àà., 2004-06-10 at 09:07, Jim Cornette wrote: > John Francis Lee wrote: > > It is beginning to look as though rh has adopted the m$ mo of purposely > > releasing a buggy product. If you want one without bugs you gotta pay... > > and pay... and pay. > > > > I was looking at some of the other RHL releases. These releases had > problems also. more things were probably held back, because of a more > safe approach with the releases. Anyway, the releases were not bug free. > If you can remember back to realplayer and RHL 6. Also RHL 8 had > problems for me and many others related to burning discs. > > I think that the Fedora release is just as intended. This release is a > snapshot of the current progress made. Bugs that were well known > prevented some programs from being upgraded. Evolution was one. > > My feedback is that if you wish for a more stable release, complaining > about the release does not do much good. What should be done is to file > reports on buggy areas that concern your situation. Supply the developer > with what details surround your problem, ther work with the developer > and pool of othe users that have the same problems that you have. > > As an example, I knew that xmms did not create an .xmms directory if you > installed a fresh install. The developer was working on resolving the > problem, then another user removed a patch that concerned arts. > > This lead to narrowing down the problem to arts. Then another developer > joined in the problem resolution. Then a solution was come up with and > xmms works on new installs. > > Help find the problem or at least report problems that you do find. > > I think the RH product for money have limitations also. They are > probably limited by holds back on development, but they are not free > from problems such as the 3com NIC card problem that still has not been > resolved. > > I don't know if the intentions of M$ or RHAT reside in releasing bugs > intentionally. Sometimes the picture does seem like it is an intentional > thing. I doubt that either make their respective products inferior just > to sell support. > > Jim -- John Francis Lee <jfl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>