Good Day friends, I to have noticed that the isapnp tools are out. RRRR! Now what madness is there in this method? mmm just kidding. :-> I have a mitac laptop and it has an ess-solo onboard. it doesn't show up in lspci so I must assume it is isa, How would I be able to make it work in FC2 tettnang without a recompile of kernel? Are there some nice tools to get alsa to work with it? thanx -- ****************************************************************** Chadley Wilson Soon 2 B RHCE Linux Rocks Welcome to my world. Enjoy the adventures of Linux *************************************************** Linux is easy, lazy people critise, curse and fail.