-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Jun 4, Avery did say: > All of these setting can be found in the file /boot/grub/grub.conf > Messing around with a front for grub in my opinion is a waste of time. Get familiar with the VIM text editor. > Try doing this at the command prompt > #vi /boot/grub/grub.conf > type the letter "i" to edit the file > type in :wq to write the changes to the file and quit Oh please... <rant> I happen to *LOVE* vim, But if your going to suggest it to *new* users who are not even comfortable with editing the configuration file your suggesting they learn vim with. ACK! shudder Not a great idea. I'd recommend perhaps that they instead start with: # cp /boot/grub/grub.conf ~/grub.conf.test # vim ~/grub.conf.test Or better still let them practice this unfamiliar tool with the relative safety of a non-root user account where they should be able to: $ cat /boot/grub/grub.conf > ~/grub.conf.test $ vim ~/grub.conf.test Also do tell them about some of the things they can put in a ~/.vimrc to make vim more friendly to new users. Like at least the showmode toggle that will put an on screen clue as to when you are in insert mode. :set smd :set nosmd And certainly tell them about the most user friendly feature vim has over the original vi, the :help command which should open the help system at a description of how to use it. :help vim is a great, and powerful editor that is well worth mastering... But dropping a new user into it cold on what they think of as a critical system configuration file, could lead to a bad experience that would keep them from ever giving vim another chance. </rant> - -- | --- --- | Joe (theWordy) Philbrook <o> <o> | J(tWdy)P ^ | <<jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx>> /---\ "bla bla bla..." | \___/ "...and bla..." At least I know my mouth is running, I just can't find the off button! ############################################################## # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################## -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAwgBmRZ/61mwhY94RAlByAKCbpTHbQtJgFXYxCA4moOtwebd7vACdGXT0 5ramkFJxttaDEZI40ZmkncA= =q9dS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----