Re: Hardrive clicking / Kernel issue or daemon ?

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On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 17:59, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 03 June 2004 18:42, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> >On Thu, 2004-06-03 at 02:18, Peter Cannon wrote:
> >> Hi Jeam-Marie
> >>
> >> On Thursday 03 Jun 2004 03:41, vejmarie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >> > It is clicking let's say every 10 to 30 s like if the head of
> >> > the hardrive where put in an off position and restarted or like
> >> > if my disk was going to die.
> >>
> >> I don't have the answer as even after 8 months I'm still a novice
> >> but, the same problem happend with FC 1 now I'm not sure of the
> >> exact kernel issue I think it was about three back (FC1 Kernels
> >> that is) as you said it sounded like the heads were extending to
> >> far on the platters this usually indicates imminent hardware
> >> failure, however on the next issue of kernel (which if memory
> >> serves me, was very fast) the problem was fixed so I take the view
> >> that the problem lies in the kernel.
> >
> >Hmm.. sound like my problem too.. D600 with factory 30GB(fujitsu),
> > no clicking..
> >
> >Upgraded to 80GB(hitachi) and there's the clicking. Checked smartd,
> > no problems with the drive.
> >
> >Been like 1+ months. No problems (touch wood). I thing I do notice
> > is that it seems to happen is the drive's Hot. or not doing
> > anything. Once I get XMMS running or reading some files or ls -laR,
> > it goes off.
> >
> >Funny..
> 
> Not to the drive I'm afraid.
> 
> This clicking is the drive itself doing whats known as thermal 
> recalibrations.  Its aware of the tempurature rise, knows that the 
> disks are growing with the heat, and is relocating a few tracks here 
> and there in order to keep its ability to seek up to date as the 
> physical dimensions of the disk change.  When the disk gets busy, the 
> seeks associated with the activity usually furnish the correction 
> info it needs, or the seeks may become buried in the normal activity 
> noises.
> 
> I don't mind it occasionally, say every 5 to 10 minutes as it warms 
> up, but if it gets too warm, they will continue essentially non-stop.  
> If after say half an hour of warmup, it is still doing it frequently, 
> then consider re-arranging the drives mountings for better cooling,  
> like leaving an open bay on both sides of it, or mounting it in a 
> drive cooler thats then mounted in a 5.25" bay.  Additional cooling 
> fans to improve the internal circulation may help, but don't make the 
> mistake of adding rear panel exhaust only fans without opening up the 
> fan port (putting an intake fan there is even better) on the front 
> fan pad most boxes have so that the PSU fan isn't starved for air, 
> and cooking the PSU.


That's the best explanation I've heard of. Though I'm really curious on where 
you got that info. I work in a HD company and yet I'm oblivious to that
"feature"

BTW, this is a laptop 5400rpm drive. It has got NO place to go with better
cooling. :(



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