From: "Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > On Thu, 27 May 2004, Chris Adams wrote: > > > Once upon a time, Robert P. J. Day <rpjday@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > > On Thu, 27 May 2004, James Marcinek wrote: > > > > Here's an interesting quote from the article: > > > > > "A FORMER Red Hat employee now in the service of the Titan of Redmond > > > > > has been openly slagging off open source to anyone that will listen. > > > > > > > > > > Chris Sharp, director for platform strategy for Microsoft in the > > > > > > big deal. the world is full of chris sharps. they're called "whores." > > > > I know a couple of people that work for Microsoft. They are normal > > people that like to eat, have a place to live, have nice "toys", etc. > > You have no idea what this guy's situation is (or was when he was with > > Red Hat), yet you viciously attack someone you've never met and know > > nothing about. What a nice guy you are. > > > > In short, STFU. > > i'm sure the world is full of perfectly personable whores who, for the > most part, are normal people, have a place to live, have nice "toys", are > fun to be around, throw barbecues on the weekends for their friends, etc. > > despite your nonsensical accusations above, i in no way "viciously > attacked" mr. sharp. i simply pointed out what was painfully obvious to > anyone, even those who had never met mr. sharp -- that is, that he is > clearly willing to say whatever it takes to make a living, even if it > involves completely contradicting what he said in his previous business > lifetime. > > in short, he's a whore. what's the problem here? I prefer the term mercenary. For some of us it's a little less emotionally charged. For example, that you would call him a whore brings to question whether you would employ his services as a whore. Now, as for the Open Source (sometimes spelled Sores) model consider the position Red Hat is in a little more seriously. They are selling something that is otherwise free. Their income model is in support. Now, if the Open Source software they are selling were done right they'd have precious little support to sell. People would dialup a repository, download a small starter kit (or "everything in sight"), run the starter kit pointing it to a useful repository, install, and be up and running in a matter of however long it took to dump the data onto the machine's storage. The starter kit would run you through setup and bang you're done. Support should not be needed. So where does Red Hat's income appear from all this? I happen to be specializing these days in software that even a George Stephanopolous can be trusted to run live on TV. Support? We certainly hope support is not needed once it's in his hands. However, we do offer support and upgrades. But it all costs considerable money. It cost me considerable time to develop it. I don't have a keep me alive and in toys income from something real like "Do you want to double size that order, Sir?" So we have to charge money for the software and hardware we sell. I get screamed at by the Open Source people for not making my work Open Source. I get screamed at by my mercenary peers for not charging as much as I should per hour for my work. I do need the income. I cannot go into a workplace as much as a 50 mile drive away every day. I can drive. But not every day due to a medical problem. So I need to telecommute. By charging less for my time I get a better chance that employers will choose me. I make up some of the difference with the feel good for winning awards from tradezines at the annual NAB shows. (The interface George Staphococcus uses on his Sunday morning show to play clips is MY software. Not many people get to brag like THAT. But bragging doesn't feed me or place a roof over my head. I wish it would. I'd have a slam dunk at a nice lifestyle. {^_-}) Open Source is needed. However, so is closed source. Both give you what the other lacks. Ignoring the important case of Apple at the moment, Windows gives you "the latest hardware works with it" while Linux gives you an apparent (not proven) level of security from those who would invade your systems that Windows has not approached. (Apple gives you an approximation of both coupled with a GUI paradigm that I personally find utterly unusable and a level of corporate arrogance that Larry Ellison should envy more than he envies Gates.) Without Open Source to show up Windows bad habits as "not necessary" the Windows community would suffer. Without closed source to drive the open source community only those things that intrigued a developer at the time would ever get done. And a side note about Red Hat's position in this world. Somebody needs to do the "stuff" in Open Source code that nobody else wants to spend their time on. Red Hat pays a good team of developers to handle "the original maintainer of this critical piece of software got bored and is retired to race motorcycles up Mt. Everest" situations. And SOMEBODY needs to pay them. Fortunately Linux is not perfect. So they can sell support contracts. And we have the world as it is now, a software ecology supporting closed source and open source quite well indeed. (And no, there is no way in the known Universe I could have developed the application I described above on Linux since Linux cannot support the hardware or software timing required. Linux is more oriented to database and server applications. The application needs an OS that is heavily influenced by the need to sell games.) {^_^}