Hehe. well it made my mozilla browser crash!! it does show up in the plugin section! BUT, it workt fine with the Konqueror from KDe. so i use that one, for my java thing (smart-ups from apc) i gues it's still buggy, (it's a rc1!!) l8r ----------------------------------------------------- Collen Blijenberg (Montessori Lyceum Herman Jordan) Wednesday, May 26, 2004, 12:49:55 PM, you wrote: PB> Am Mi, den 26.05.2004 schrieb Collen Blijenberg um 10:49: >> Found one at www.blackdown.org .. PB> Very good. Would be nice to report your experiences here. PB> Peter