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It would appear that on May 25, Luciano Miguel Ferreira Rocha did say:
> On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 03:26:41AM -0400, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > 1)bios lists the masters first, then the slaves?
> No. But it can report SCSI hard disks before ATA. Or after. Depends on
> your boot order.
>
> > 2)bios lists the harddrives then the cd drives?
> BIOS doesn't list cd drives as hard disks .:)
>
> > 3)grub's "hd*" numbering scheme simply skips cd drives? In which case,
> > what does grub call the durned things?
>
> It doesn't call them anything. Grub can't boot from cdroms.
>
> > 4)I'm completely clueless and should just sell my soul back to M$
> > because I'm incapable of understanding anything... <whimper> ;)
>
> Learning is a continuos process. Don't expect to know everything about
> stuff you haven't used or examined before.
>
> Anyway, the documentation always helps. (Section "Naming convention" on
> grub's info page.)
I read this as possibility #3 was essentially correct. Than goodness
cause if I was down to possibility #4 ( Which I included partly as humor
and partly because if none of the 1st three were even close, I would
have had to consider the possibility that my brain was malfunctioning.
And the only OS I know of that doesn't really want it's users to think
is a certain proprietary one.
Thank you for the kind words as well Luciano. I don't expect to know
everything. But sometimes I think I suffer from CRS {Can't Remember
Sh^Htuff} I'm not a linux newbie, but CRS will likely keep me from ever
being an expert...
<rant>
My biggest problem with becoming an expert at anything linux is that I
NEED a quick reference to remember anything I don't do a lot of. This
means that If I spend 2 hours researching something, and didn't remember
to bookmark each and every think that was new to me, when I go to do it,
I won't remember where I found any of the half remembered details, and
may spend 10 hours looking without stumbling over the missing detail
again. Often I find the output of Man {or Info} to leave me unsure of
several details that the writer seamed to take for granted the reader
would know. I can follow most of it well enough that if only there were
an abundance of examples that showed more than one "normal joe user" use.
I'd often be able to just skim the rest, copy/paste/edit the examples and
get the task done. As it is I'm usually stuck feeling like to understand
some point halfway through some doc I need to read 2 or three books to
find out what book contains the two line example I needed, and by that
time I've forgotten what I wanted to use it for, and so probably don't
recognize it. <sigh>
I don't think I think in pictures, so to me a picture isn't worth
much. But one well formed example is usually worth more than a thousand
words of explanation.
And that's why I like shell scripts more than gui solutions. If I can
remember where I've done something before, I can less my script and see
how I did it last time...
Reading the explanation many times is no guarantee I'll remember any of
it. But successfully following an easy to find example, enables me to
learn by doing and eventually I get to skip the look up the example step.
</rant>
I can however understand your explanation, coupled with the examples of
it I've found to realize that if I want to know what value to use for
hd${num} in grub, I should simply do an "cat /boot/grub/device.map"
Which since I won't remember the "/boot/grub/device.map" very well means
$ mc
cd /boot
(scroll/browse filenames till I find it,{F3})
Only in reality, unless I start working with a multitude of computers
I'll just remember that on my pc hda=0 & hdc=1 And probably forget all
about the existence of that useful "/boot/grub/device.map" file <CRS
just plain stinks>
Thanks again for the kind words of encouragement Luciano.
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