Ok, you know, it's a good thing to recommend people searching the archives. But when half a dozen people jump down some poor chap's throat because he asks a simple question (and hasn't searched the archives), things are getting out of hand. So can everybody just chill a little? My questions to the list admin would be, is the welcome message that gets sent out to every new subscriber a.) being sent and b.) telling people to search the archives before asking a question? And those who recommend searching the archives, try searching them yourselves on the topic before spouting off. You might be surprised at the overwhelming volume. In particular, over three-quarters of the searches on 'MySQL' point to messages that say 'Search the archives!' So your self-righteous net.cop posting has just cheapened the value of your sacred archives. Why not be a little patient, or actually answer the question in a patient manner, with a gentle pointer to 'you know, the list has archives, which are available at http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/, and might have answers to other questions you may have.' If you can't exercise that sort of patience, you should just cancel your nastygram and go to the next message and save the rest of us on the list you noisey-quette posting. You certainly don't need to be posting anything with that attitude. This list has a bad enough s/n ratio without self-appointed net.cops. -- Lamar Owen Director of Information Technology Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive Rosman, NC 28772 (828)862-5554 www.pari.edu