Good work Mark Fuller. I was interested in the claim that all ASUS MBs were bad. I burned a copy Knoppix to a CD to see if it was a Kernel problem, but Knoppix and its 2.6 Linux kernel booted just fine. I think that we, as a community, are missing too many diagnostics. I remember getting a diagnostic with every hardware purchase. Tom 'Needs A Hat' Mitchell reminded me about how many assumptions I made about hardware and media when I complained about burning installation disks. I slowed down my burning speed and everything is working much better. Tom was right, but the hardware and media specs suggest that I can trust full speed burns. As this list become more popular and well known, it would server all the problem solvers well to develop some simple (very simple) checklists to help people gather more knowledge about their systems. Check lists can help people paredo out classes of problems and focus resources. thanks. Dwaine