i've already submitted the bug report (#1619) apt and synaptic determine that php needs to be installed for php-imap (no duh), but then decide immediately after that it needs to be removed. if i have php installed already, they attempt to uninstall and panic. yum does not have any such issue. i think this may be because of the way they built their apt repo. -d +( duncan brown : duncanbrown@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx )+ +( linux "just works" : www.linuxadvocate.net )+ -------------------------------------------------- Understatement of the century: "Hello everybody out there using minix - I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones" - Linus Torvalds, August 1991 --------------------------------------------------