On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 06:14:15PM +0200, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > Reply-To: For users of Fedora Core releases <fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > > Two nights ahead of the official release of Fedora Core 2 I would like > to initiate a discussion about the question, whether and if yes, how the > running release information should be a default information in list > postings which do not cover just general questions. .... > - Should posters (nearly) always start their postings with a preface, > stating whether it is Fedora Core 1 or Fedora Core 2? A simple statement would help. running FC1 running FC2 fresh install running FC2 upgrade from FC1 running FC2 upgrade from Rawhide running FC2 upgrade from RH9 running FC2 upgrade from I forgot (be honest ;-) running FC2 upgrade from I forgot CPU 64bit AMDxxx And, if people get in the habit of telling what they are working on and working with things will simplify. Example a person with bash troubles would be wise to tell us the obvious and not snow us with details. kernel ==> uname -a bash ==> rpm -q --whatprovides `which bash # describe what they are attempting.... Compare and contrast... $ uname -a Linux x2 2.6.5-1.358 #1 Sat May 8 09:04:50 EDT 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux $ uname -a Linux x1 2.4.22-1.2188.nptl #1 Wed Apr 21 20:35:41 EDT 2004 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux `$ rpm -q --whatprovides `which bash` bash-2.05b-34 $ rpm -q --whatprovides `which bash` bash-2.05b-38 $ bash --version GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) $ bash --version GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-redhat-linux-gnu) If I look back in time it is clear why versions might matter. /var/spool/up2date/bash-2.05b-34.i386.rpm /var/spool/up2date/bash-2.05b-20.1.i386.rpm /var/spool/up2date/bash-2.05b-5.1.i386.rpm Simple things like this case of multiple versions of ftp can be confusing to users (try which ftp) and see which is found first for you. Then we wonder how do they differ? /usr/bin/ftp /usr/kerberos/bin/ftp Bottom line FC1 .vs. FC2 is less interesting than a more fully described question. It is however a start. -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage.