Hi Davy On Friday 14 May 2004 16:51, Davy Brion wrote: > On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 04:31, duncan brown wrote: > > well, apt doesn't come on the fedora DISCS, but it is a part of the > > official fedora EXTRAS, which is housed at www.fedora.us. > > > > you'll find tons of programs there for fedora. > > ok, but you simply can't expect a user who's new to linux to figure this > out on his own. Fedora should simply provide said user with an easy to > use tool. no matter how good you may think apt is, if it's not > installed _by default_ and easy to use, it's useless to people who are > coming from windows and trying out Fedora for the first time. > > it really amazes me that the Linux community seems to not want to make > Linux as easy to use as possible to people coming from Windows. > > btw, i'm not a new linux user... i've been using linux for 4 years now, > but trying to get people to switch to Linux is a bitch if a lot of the > stuff they wanna do is not easily doable with tools that come with the > distro _by default_ Firstly let me say Duncan is a nice guy, he helped me get both 'apt' and KDE 3.2 installed having said that I agree with everything you said I was bitten by the Linux bug about seven months ago I still run dual boot with windows on all my machines because as you say sometimes its quicker, easier to download, manipulate stuff with a GUI that is, I have to say, trusted by the world (mostly) funnily enough I have been joking on another LUG that there is three levels of Linux user: 1: The newbie. Total GUI (Graphical) usage. 2: The intermediate. Text based, avoids GUI and eye candy like the plague mention GUI and they'll look at you like you poohed on thier carpet! 3: The grand master. Terminal surgically inplanted in the brain mention a keyboard or terminal screen and they will look at you like you slept with thier mother they dont use Linux they think it. -- Regards Peter Cannon peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "And when Alexander saw the breadth of his domain he wept for there were no more worlds to conquer"
