after finding out you will have to upgrade to a new version of fedora every 3 months, I question my decision on using fedora. i am seriously considering ol' faithful slackware for the server since it still has apache 1.3... and a few apps i want to use require 1.3. i had serious problem compiling apache 1.3.(latest), mod_perl and php 4 on this fedora box. honestly, it's a pain in the arse the way all the packages are split up into different rpms and the way pam is currently setup. i did finally get everything working, but only after extracting libpam.la from an older version of pam-devel. this was required for the current php 4 and the configure options I wanted. note: i still don't know what the .la file is or why it's missing from the current pam-devel, but php required it to compile. probably would have saved many hours by going ahead and switching to slackware. downloading the iso's now, but i still haven't decided. slackware 9.1(as i understand) does not support smp, but compared to what i went through with apache and compiling the above from source, it seems trivial to adjust the slackware kernel source and recompile. "i left a lot of stuff out of the apache config and would have to recompile yet again to get everything going." i still have fedora core 1 on my laptop and may update it to fc2. just wanted to know, has anyone else had such problems when compiling from source on rpm based distributions and are you (like me) considering your options since fc1 is at the end of the road? for these reason and many others, i still think Redhat made a mistake going the fedora route. JMHO, i also think fedora has it's place - separate from RH. a few years ago a friend told me, "all you need is slackware 3.0" he runs an isp and all his severs run slackware. i'm beginning to believe him that slackware may infact be the most customizable distro when it comes to compiling from source and only installing what you need. please don't say, i recommend slack 3.0 - read that line again. in anycase, over the years i have tried many distros, but i always seem to go back to slackware. i really don't care about having to compile from source as long the compilation goes flawlessly. i don't mind keeping up with security issues myself, since i really don't need to run that many programs anyway. the base os, apache, mod_perl, php, mysql, mutt, and an mta is about it. the rest of the tools i mainly use are web based applications. it's been a fun ride, i may be back next week - who knows... but i want to try other distros and get your view on this 3 month stratigy of RH's fedora core distro's? jay