Greetings; With my camera removed from the usbautocam listing, plugged in and turned on, I get this from an lsusb -v: Bus 003 Device 007: ID 07b4:0105 Olympus Optical Co., Ltd Camedia C-700/C-3040/C-4000 Zoom Camera Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDeviceClass 0 Interface bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 8 idVendor 0x07b4 Olympus Optical Co., Ltd idProduct 0x0105 Camedia C-700/C-3040/C-4000 Zoom Camera bcdDevice 1.00 iManufacturer 1 OLYMPUS iProduct 2 C3100Z/C3020Z iSerial 3 000217211011 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 32 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xc0 Self Powered MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 2 bInterfaceClass 7 Printer bInterfaceSubClass 1 Printer bInterfaceProtocol 2 Bidirectional iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type none wMaxPacketSize 64 bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x82 EP 2 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type none wMaxPacketSize 64 bInterval 0 Language IDs: (length=4) 0409 English(US) Before I upgraded to FC1, I could do a mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera, and then use any copy util to download the images in its card memory. Now I am getting messages from mount to the effect that its not a valid block device. Hotplug is re-installed, and automount is running, and has a lock on the /misc dir so tight I cannot see any of the oughly 3 gigabytes of data stored in subdirs of /misc. The /.automount directory is either similarly locked, or empty. lsof does no links to /.automount, so I presume its empty. With autofs stopped, this comes up in the logs when I turn it on: May 14 21:55:53 coyote kernel: usb 3-2.2: new full speed USB device using address 8 May 14 21:55:53 coyote kernel: usb 3-2.2: Product: C3100Z/C3020Z May 14 21:55:53 coyote kernel: usb 3-2.2: Manufacturer: OLYMPUS May 14 21:55:53 coyote kernel: usb 3-2.2: SerialNumber: 000217211011 May 14 21:55:53 coyote kernel: scsi4 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices May 14 21:55:53 coyote kernel: Vendor: OLYMPUS Model: C-3020ZOOM(U) Rev: 1.00 May 14 21:55:53 coyote kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 May 14 21:55:53 coyote kernel: Attached scsi generic sg2 at scsi4, channel 0, id 0, lun 0, type 0 May 14 21:55:53 coyote scsi.agent[4980]: disk at /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:11.4/usb3/3-2/3-2.2/3-2.2:1.0/host4/4:0:0:0 May 14 21:55:53 coyote modprobe: FATAL: Module sd_mod not found. Note no mention of /dev/sda1, only sg2, and sg2 is worthless for a block device. And what is sd_mod? My ./config was posted in a previous message. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) 99.22% setiathome rank, not too shabby for a WV hillbilly Yahoo.com attorneys please note, additions to this message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2004 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.