On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 03:17:19PM -0600, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: > At 16:07 5/11/2004, Jeff Vian wrote: ... > >possible slippage of things that are not in their control. That is > >professionalism at its best. Under promise & over deliver. Thus you are > >not left at the mercy of someone else's failures. > > Rather than implied agreement by silence, I should have made it clearer > that I subscribe to your point of view here 100%. No argument at all. One of the historic application design rules for Unix was "silence is golden". This makes sense on an old 150 baud current loop teletype that made such a racket that the less feed back from an application the better. Now in the modern world of project managers, Kibitzers, lookie lews, status reports, time lines and check boxes seem to be in great demand. What many forget about oversight is that it costs. It costs time, money, man power, and yes introduces delays. So how much time did the original project manager budget for the download, burning and verification of the installation media? I have never felt I could get media in my hands over the net or FedEx in less than a week.... -- T o m M i t c h e l l /dev/null the ultimate in secure storage.