ok - newbie admin question... I want to test out a cool command line command... ifconfig eth0 down wow! I can't connect to the internet...cool. ok... ifconfig eth0 up no joy... Q: what command can I use to determine why I no longer have an internet conection? netstat and ifconfig just give me a lovely bunch of summary info. What do I need to look at/do to: 1. verify that I am down 2. get the internet active again. (NO GUI PROGRAMS - command line answers only please! - although that's appearantly the only way to manage disk volumes & volume groups (whoah - later discussion!) ) -- ======================================================================== Robert Achmann Thought provoking, and very cool, philosophical statement.