I have looked through the back mail archives and have not found any metion of this one -- sorry if someone has already answered it. Recently I installed fedora (on an athlon box previously runnin rh9 with KDE) and under KDE there is a problem with the Kasbar. Normally the KasBar contains icons for all of the running programs and is very conventient; however, generally the last few programs started to not *appear* to show up on the KasBar. However, if I got its configuration screen and change the icon size, then *all* of the icons show up again as normal. For a while, anyway. Afterwards (not icon-size dependent, apparently) if I iconize a window or click on one of the iconized items on the KasBar, the relevent icon may go away (but can be restored as described above). Has anyone else seen this behaviour and if so is there a solution? Relevent info: kde 3.1.4 kernel-2.4.22-1.2188 (athlon) [ bug is kernel-independent ] glibc-2.3.2-101.4 Thanks in advance. -- William W. Austin waustin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx bill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Life is just a phase I'm going through..."